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Prosecutors ask for 7-9 years for Roger Stone

Discussion in 'GatorNana's Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by rivergator, Feb 11, 2020.

  1. gator_fever

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    We actually have a Russian Collusion hoax truther for a Judge here. lol
     
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  2. g8rjd

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  3. g8rjd

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    FYI. She did not mention Trump by name. She actually referred to a party with a longstanding relationship with Stone. Obviously Trump.
     
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  4. g8rjd

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  5. gator_fever

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    I cant wait to see this Russian - Collusion Hoax Truther Judge when Trump wins in Nov 2020.
     
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  6. g8rjd

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    3.3 years BoP. Considering he scored 70-87 months, Stone received a rather lenient sentence.
     
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  7. 96Gatorcise

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    seems light considering the guidelines. i would have thought between 5-7 yrs.
     
  8. g8rjd

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    Yep. She downward departed from the guidelines. Pretty lenient actually. Most would have said 70 months and been done with it.
     
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  9. g8rjd

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    You do realize that penological theory indicates that punishment also serves a general deterrence for others to dissuade them from committing crimes in the future, and it is entirely appropriate for a judge to use their punishment to send a message to the community to dissuade them from future criminal conduct, right?

    No, of course you don’t.
     
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  10. mdgator05

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    Paul Manafort- Prison
    Michael Cohen- Prison
    Rick Gates- Prison
    Roger Stone- Convicted and heading to prison
    Michael Flynn- Convicted
    Assange- Indicted


    Hillary Clinton- Not indicted, investigation dropped
    Comey- Not indicted
    McCabe- Not indicted, investigation dropped

    Your theories are not standing up to the scrutiny of the real world.
     
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  11. OaktownGator

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    More fantasy land stuff.

    There was loads of factual basis for investigation into the sweeping ties between the Trump campaign and the Russians.

    And while Mueller decided wasn't enough evidence to support legal conspiracy charges, he made no comment on Collusion, which in every sense of the word was rampant between Trump and the Russians. Trump and his team asked for and received damaging information to the Clinton campaign. Trump's team shared campaign strategy and confidential polling data with the Russians so they could target their social media disinformation campaign accordingly.

    Trump and his campaign collude with an enemy state to subvert the 2016 election. He then engaged in 10 documented cases of Obstruction of Justice to subvert the investigation into his actions. Over one thousand former federal prosecutors signed a letter saying anyone other than the President would have been nailed on at least three counts of Obstruction of Justice from the Mueller report.

    Trump now attempted to extort an ally into announcing bogus investigations, withholding hundreds of millions of dollars in security aid and other political support (Pence's visit, WH visit).

    He is by far the dirtiest President on record. Repeatedly corrupt, criminal and traitorous. For personal gain. And whatever Putin is holding over him.

    A couple of mistakes on FISA warrant applications doesn't change any of that.

    Trump has clearly demonstrated that he fully supports corruption as he pardons corrupt convicts. His bald faced lie about fighting corruption in the Ukraine laid bare by his actions in the immediate aftermath of his sham acquittal by the Senate.[/QUOTE]
     
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  12. rivergator

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    I’m not sensing a lot of sympathy coming from the judge
     
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  13. gator_fever

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    Sundance - "Within the process to deal with Stone’s motion for a new trial, Judge Berman-Jackson knows resolving the petition involves bringing jury foreperson Tomeka Hart to her courtroom for questioning. The activist judge did not want a damaging political optic prior to delivering her sentence. An appearance by the foreperson to explain overt bias begs the question of how poorly Judge Berman-Jackson handled jury selection."
     
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  14. gaterzfan

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    40 months? That's all?
     
  15. PerSeGator

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    A little less than I expected, but I think many judges would depart at least some. Ultimately, there are few people serving 5+ years on a false statements case.

    That said, I do think that part of her sentence was to reduce the likelihood of a pardon. The machine has been working overtime to discredit her and the prosecution as a partisan hit job so that if she gave a guidelines sentence it would be proof of a "gross miscarriage of justice." They've been conditioning the idea for weeks now to reduce the blow back from a pardon. But now with a much lower sentence, all that goes mostly out the window, so a pardon will look a lot more like what it is -- Trump rewarding a loyal soldier.

    We'll know one way or the other which way Trump wants to go based on the conservative Twitter response the next 24-48 hours.
     
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  16. VAg8r1

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    Blaming Judge Jackson? At a minimum Roger Stone's attorneys should have removed her by using one of their peremptory challenges and they may have been able to challenge her for cause.
     
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  17. sierragator

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    pardon coming in 3,2,1.....
    That and the crowd at a trump rally chanting lock her up in reference to the judge.... so much for the rule of law.....
     
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  18. duchen

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    Thank G-d we have an independent judiciary that is not dependent on a constituency who thinks like you do. Or fears the President. Btw: calling the judge a jack is an insult and violates the rules here.
     
  19. duchen

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    This is the problem of getting information from sources who lie and opine, instead of just telling you what actually went on. It leaves you badly ill informed.
     
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  20. duchen

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    He threatened to kill a witness
     
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