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POLL -American Pride? Proud to be An American?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by RayGator, Jul 7, 2018.

Are You Proud To Be An American?

  1. YES. Republican.

    21 vote(s)
    35.0%
  2. NO. Republican.

    2 vote(s)
    3.3%
  3. YES. Democrats.

    5 vote(s)
    8.3%
  4. NO. Democrats.

    3 vote(s)
    5.0%
  5. YES. Independents.

    22 vote(s)
    36.7%
  6. NO. Independents.

    7 vote(s)
    11.7%
  1. RayGator

    RayGator Moderator VIP Member

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    Do You Have American Pride and Are You Proud To Be An American?

    YES ?

    NO ?

    USA Today Poll July 4, 2018.

    REPUBLICANS.
    DEMOCRATS.
    INDEPENDENTS.

    American Pride?

    Proud To Be American!
    90% Agree.
    6% Disagree.


    61% Agree.
    24% Disagree.


    67% Agree.
    15% Disagree.

    Proud To Be An American Right Now..
    71% Agree.
    16% Disagree.


    22% Agree.
    59% Disagree.


    36% Agree.
    45% Disagree.

    Poll: On the 4th, what symbolizes the best (and worst) of America? It depends whom you ask
     
  2. RayGator

    RayGator Moderator VIP Member

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    OK Everybody! Don’t forget to Vote in our POLL! :)! :):)
     
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  3. flgator2

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    I'm a Conservative and never once have I been ashamed of being American, quite the opposite extremely proud and honored to be an American.
     
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  4. Bazza

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    I used to be a Republican quite a while back but after Reagan I changed my status to NPA and am proud that I do not vote along any party line, but rather vote for whoever is the best fit for my criteria.

    I'm both saddened and disgusted by the lack of integrity and character demonstrated both both parties.

    We were sold out a long time ago......not sure if it's even reversible at this point.

    That said, yes I will always be proud of our country and proud to be an American.
     
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  5. wrpgator

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    Proud American every day of my life. How lucky we are. Don't ever take being American for granted, and Stay Proud. Long live the U.S.A!
     
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  6. gatorgrad92

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    Im proud to be an American. I am disgusted and embarrassed by most of my fellow 'Americans'.
     
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  7. RayGator

    RayGator Moderator VIP Member

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    My goodness, not much interest in this Poll. And here I thought I finally may post something of interest to the Too Hot crowd. Tough crowd on here. Oh well...:)
     
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  8. gator_lawyer

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    I am an Independent. I am grateful to be an American, but no, I can't say that I am proud of my country right now.
     
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  9. busigator96

    busigator96 Hooked since summer 1997!

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    No American pride anymore

    Independent

    I'm not proud of something I didn't accomplish.
     
  10. anstro76

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    I think this sums it all up perfectly. I am grateful also, but why would I be proud of winning the birth place lottery? I didn't even buy the ticket.
     
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  11. lacuna

    lacuna The Conscience of Too Hot VIP Member

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    Grateful ~ I like your word choice. It's mine, too.

    @RayGator ~ You have on numerous occasions posted of your Christian faith. Surely you must know the Bible cautions against pride. Did you consider that when setting up this poll? Below are a dozen or so verses you may have read. More at link.

    What Does the Bible Say About Pride?

    Proverbs 8:13 ESV
    The fear of the Lord is hatred of evil. Pride and arrogance and the way of evil and perverted speech I hate.

    James 4:6 ESV
    But he gives more grace. Therefore it says, “God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble.”

    Psalm 59:12 ESV
    For the sin of their mouths, the words of their lips, let them be trapped in their pride. For the cursing and lies that they utter,

    Jeremiah 9:23 ESV
    Thus says the Lord: “Let not the wise man boast in his wisdom, let not the mighty man boast in his might, let not the rich man boast in his riches,

    Ecclesiastes 7:8 ESV
    Better is the end of a thing than its beginning, and the patient in spirit is better than the proud in spirit.

    Proverbs 16:19 ESV
    It is better to be of a lowly spirit with the poor than to divide the spoil with the proud.

    Psalm 73:6 ESV
    Therefore pride is their necklace; violence covers them as a garment.

    Psalm 10:2 ESV
    In arrogance the wicked hotly pursue the poor; let them be caught in the schemes that they have devised.

    Isaiah 16:6 ESV
    We have heard of the pride of Moab— how proud he is!— of his arrogance, his pride, and his insolence; in his idle boasting he is not right.

    Isaiah 13:11 ESV
    I will punish the world for its evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; I will put an end to the pomp of the arrogant, and lay low the pompous pride of the ruthless.

    Proverbs 11:12 ESV
    Whoever belittles his neighbor lacks sense, but a man of understanding remains silent.

    2 Timothy 3:2
    For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy,

    Mark 7:20-23 ESV
    And he said, “What comes out of a person is what defiles him. For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, coveting, wickedness, deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride, foolishness. All these evil things come from within, and they defile a person.”

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    American hubris is the result of the promotion and acceptance of U.S. Exceptionalism. By consequence and comparison this arrogant self evaluation results in a devaluation of the rest of the world. Those in positions of power believe the US has the right, the duty, to impose their/its collective will on the rest of the world. It has made us an aggressive, and recently, unpredictable and unreliable force headed by a capricious, narcissistic, wannabe dictator.
     
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  12. OaktownGator

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    I also like grateful as the description.
     
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  13. AndyGator

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    I am a proud independent. Am I embarrassed to have an eleven-year president and his daily tweet lies? Sure. Do I agree with his draconian immigration policies? No. Am I alarmed with his foreign policy of alienating traditional allies and embracing Putin and Kim Jong Un? Absolutely. Am I pleased with his corruption and discord? Of course not. Do I like his anti-National Security attacks and agenda against the FBI and US intelligence agencies? Hell no.

    But at the end of the day I am still proud to be an American.
     
  14. GatorRade

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    I also like grateful, and I agree here that whatever is America’s greatness, I benefitted from it much more than produced it.
     
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  15. Bazza

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    I'm afraid some here may be under the influence of the media in forming their opinions. That's OK - no skin off my nose. As a fellow American - I'm happy that we all have the opportunity to post our thoughts without fear of reappraisal from the government or other private entities.

    My point is - there is a LOT to be PROUD of as Americans. We are respected around the world for so many different aspects of our society and lifestyle.

    Sure.....we are not perfect. But that comes with the territory.

    We are a world leader in so many things!

    That didn't happen by accident. That happened by the folks who poured their heart and soul into whatever was necessary to provide a good life for themselves and everyone else around them.

    You're welcome to your opinions, like I said, but wow - how anyone cannot say they are PROUD to be an American is something I cannot process.
     
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  16. homer

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    Pride as defined by our dictionary can have numerous meanings.

    The Bible definition refers to only one.

    Pride can be both good and bad, even arrogant.

    I’m a proud parent of two good kids.

    I am proud to help the less fortunate.

    I am proud of my work when I’m at my job.

    Then there’s the pride of self worth, arrogance, etc.
     
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  17. Rocinante

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    I think national pride is a sign of a small mind as I had nothing to do with where I was born. Am I glad I was born here vs. most other countries, yes. Are there countries I would pick over this one if given a choice, yes. Proud, that’s not the right question, cause being proud of something you had zero input on, is irrational. Even though there’s some disconnect, you could be proud of a child you are a parent of, because, presumably, your good parenting enabled a positive outcome.

    I think an actual WW2 vet should be proud of their contribution to a great outcome and a positive one for humanity. The term Pride is such a MIS-used word.
     
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  18. RayGator

    RayGator Moderator VIP Member

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    As mentioned in Post #1 the Poll was borrowed from the USA TODAY. They were given credit with a link. Thus, the word “Pride” appears in a topic in the Poll.
     
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  19. lacuna

    lacuna The Conscience of Too Hot VIP Member

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    Pride is an emotion or attitude that can be felt or experienced in various ways as you wrote below. However, in every instance another word may better describe what you have labeled pride.

    I'm a grateful parent of two good kids.
    Your kids' successes were achieved with your guidance, you recognize this and are thankful. So much can go wrong when raising children.

    I am pleased/happy to help those less fortunate.

    I am pleased/satisfied with my work when I'm at my job.

    These are deleterious results of overweening pride and the reasons the attitude should be avoided.

    A theology professor at Baylor's George Truett Seminary said it all much better than I when he wrote of pride in this Baylor publication ( I am pleased all 3 of my children chose to attend university at Baylor):

    From the Baylor University School of Social Work

    The Deadly Sin of Pride
    Sexual ethics aside, traditional Christian teaching nowhere
    clashes more sharply with contemporary sensibilities than
    on the moral status of pride. Christians have long counted pride as a
    sin—indeed, the “original sin” that generates every other and is the
    vital principle in each. C.S. Lewis speaks for many Christian moralists
    when he calls pride “the essential vice, the utmost evil.” He asserts
    that pride “is the complete anti-God state of mind” (Lewis, 1980, pp.
    121-22). Many people today, however, view pride as a virtue and a key
    component in emotional maturity and self-actualization. Therapists
    seek to instill in clients positive self-regard, teachers try to boost
    student self-esteem, and social movements justify their programs in the
    name of gay pride, black pride, and the like. It might seem, therefore,
    that Christians in the “people helping” professions are caught between
    incompatible perspectives. As Christians, they have been taught that
    pride is a vice; as professionals, they have been trained to view pride as
    a virtue. Which is true?

    Read the entire thoughtful essay on "The Deadly Sin of Pride" at this link: www.baylor.edu/content/services/document.php/117031.pdf
     
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  20. philobeddoe

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    Link to a blog @ baylor.edu/admissions1/tag/baylor-pride/

    Baylor Pride | Baylor Admissions


    The "Baylor Proud" web page

    Alumni


    Baylor Proud twitter page
    BaylorProud (@BaylorProud) | Twitter

     
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