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Discussion in 'Nuttin' but Net' started by alietigator, Jan 11, 2018.

  1. alietigator

    alietigator GC Hall of Fame

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    still early, but don’t look now but we have climbed to 33 after being in the 60s and 70s. Also the Loyola loss however bad it felt, is technically not a sub 100 loss as they keep winning and are 88 currently. Also our loss to Clemson is also inconsequential numbers wise as they are top ten. We still have a ton of room to move up as most of our remaining games are against top 100 teams with most in the top 50. SEC strength is the best it’s been in years.
     
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  2. It's (for whatever reason) a seriously lagging indicator for us this season. We're making a serious rise with a bullet up the charts; keep winning and the rest will take care of itself.

    This chart looks best for us right now:
    http://www.timetravelsports.com/r2018.CBB
     
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  3. gatorbogey

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    Sagarin has us #18 in his composite, #19 predictor and #30 in his recent (was up in the 100's)
    Pomeroy has us #23. offense is a respectable #19, defense at #48

    tidbit:
    we faced, and beat, the #2 pomeroy defense this season (Cincy)!
    we faced, and lost to, pomeroy's #1 offense (Duke).

    Lunardi's bracketology for 1/11/18
    has UF as a 7-seed in the south region facing #10 Maryland, Charlotte pod, w/ Duke as the 2 seed.
    Lunardi has 8 SEC teams in.
     
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  4. SJB612

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    I wouldn't mind another shot at Duke with Egbunu back in the lineup.
     
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  5. ArtVandelay

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    I still think 7 seed is low for us at this point. If Loyola can stay under 100, I think that would be big for us.

    Obviously winning will help. Could use aTm to start winning some games.
     
  6. alietigator

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    I agree, am surprise we are still a seven. He have more good wins than many teams ahead of us as a seven seed. Still plenty of time to get a top 4 seed. That’s really all that matters.
     
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  7. gatorbogey

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    at #18 in Sagarin, would slot us as a 5-seed.
    Sagarin's 'recent' rating of UF at #30 puts UF at a 7 or 8 seed.
    curiously, Lunardi has Tennessee, I believe, slotted as a 5-seed.
    Sagarin has UTenn at 33....but their recent rating is at #15.
    looking at these 2 teams might say: Lunardi appears to be using a blend of Sagarin's recent and composite to seed his bracket.
     
  8. ArtVandelay

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    He has aTm as a 7 seed. Enough said. If the season ended today. they would be lucky to sniff the bubble.
     
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  9. gatorbogey

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    yeah, A&M has been dropping rapidly on sagarin. now down to #34. that does fit a 7/8 seed line. but their recent rating is #179! ouch!
     
  10. REM08

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    I wonder how A&M would be looked at. Not that the committee is ever consistent necessarily, but there's precedent to overlook some of the losses that were affected by roster circumstances.
     
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  11. ArtVandelay

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    Injuries should be accounted for. If your player gets suspended, then I don't think they should get any sympathy.
     
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  12. themistocles

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    It's still very early, and if the Gator frontcourt can heal and play (Egbunu, Stokes and/or Johnson), that would be a massive boost down the stretch. Gak has played some in the past 2 games, since it is pretty vital that Stone and Hayes don't get completely worn down during the arduous season.
     
  13. GatorLurker

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    The Gator team that played FSU and Loyola looked like NIT at best.

    The last few games they look like a 4 seed or better.

    It is a long season and we will see how it plays out. Enjoy the ride.
     
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  14. GATORJV

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    Let's hope this team is starting a climb that peaks in March!
     
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  15. gulfgator

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    Good post. Just two weeks ago UF was in the upper 80s. It could not be ignored, most still assumed at the time UF was a tourney team, but nothing is a given when your RPI is that high.

    Credit to the team for rebounding sharply and putting themselves into a manageable position.
     
  16. gogators73

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    If we hadn’t blown that Clemson OR Duke game, it’d be top 25.
     
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  17. gogators73

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    Also, that New Hampshire game was a 3 point game with 2 minutes left. I thought UNH would be like Vermont and maybe be top-100 RPI.

    They are now 4-11 and #320 RPI. That would have been devastating.
     
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  18. Much of this is ridiculous and slavish adherence to subjective review of numbers for the sake of numbers.

    A much less ridiculous but nevertheless subjective review for our ranking and tournament positioning is this: where the hell do you think the first place SEC team is going to be slotted?

    Because that is legitimately us, and it's going to be hard to dislodge us from that number one spot. Take a look at this generic and open-to-the-public ranking:

    https://www.masseyratings.com/team.php?t=2625&s=298892

    As projected, we finish the regular season 16-2 in the conference (unlikely but definitely possible) and 25-6 overall. A seven seed? Hardly. You can probably add 3 more conference losses to the projection and we still won't drop down to a 7-seed.

    For instance: 7-seeds last year, prior to conference tournaments and the big dance
    (note the records of the two Power-5 conference teams)

    Carolina Gamecocks; 22-9 (12-6)
    St. Mary's; 26-3 (16-2)
    Dayton; 24-6 (15-3)
    Michigan; 20-11 (10-8)

    Yeah, a 7-seed does not appear likely for us. Not at all, unless we crash and burn.
     
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  19. madgator

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    My guess is that come NCAA selection time, that we're going to have 8 total losses or so.

    So the 7 seed prediction at this point seems reasonable
     
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