Discussion in 'Nuttin' but Net' started by Nicho, Oct 1, 2018.
I'll take two, Omar.
True... though Nembhard is another 5-Star.
White is rolling!
I see he's rated #35 in one poll, #67 in another. 7'-5" wingspan. Very good pickup for the Gators, and a guy who'll likely be on the roster for 2 or 3 years.
Huge pickup!. This, IMO, addresses the team's biggest need by far. If he really has 7'5" wingspan he should be something special on D and rebounding. That is crazy.
When looking at recruiting classes I always like to combine the previous year class with the current. In this case its larger than normal with the 2 redshirts from last year in Stokes and Johnson (Attorneys at Law - LOL). So think of what we could look like in the next year or two.
Guards - Nembhard, Mann, Locke
Forwards - Chase Johnson, Stokes (1a), K Johnson, Lewis???
Center - Payne, Stokes (1b)
That's a high level of talent in 2 years rarely seen here for the Gators. That's what Final 4s are made of if they learn to play team basketball. I think you get that from Nembhard, Payne, and K Johnson as seen from their HS history. I'll wait on the others until I see more.
Dude looks talented and looooong.
Great pick up!
With Kevarrius Hayes entering his senior year, Omar Payne is an excellent future addition to the team. Coach White is doing a bang-up job in re-stocking his roster with talent.
No. 10 center Payne commits to Florida over FSU
ESPN 100 center Omar Payne committed to Florida on Monday night.
Payne chose the Gators over several schools, but took official visits to only Florida and Florida State.
This is great stuff. White’s recruiting just gets better and better every year.
It's interesting to compare 3 excellent Gator Basketball Coaches' recruiting history and trends.
Lon Kruger had a very good eye for prospects, but after going to the Final 4, he eventually left the Gators because it was impossible to bring top Talent to the Gators.
Billy Donovan - until his time, only 3 Mickey D All Americans had ever been recruited to the Gators and Florida Mr Basketball's came rarely. His first class had Fl Mr B Brent Wright and Major Parker, then 2 Mickey D AAs plus UD, then 2 Mickey D AAs plus Bonner & Hamilton, and so on, until he lost Harvey, Brown & White, at which point he moved to lesser rated kids who wouldn't be One-N-Dones, with the rare exception, Brad Beal, and one might think Kasey Hill and Walker given their rankings, but not their reality. In his later years, it was Transfers who frequently were frequently better players, like DFS.
Michael White - Year 1 he saved 3 of Donovan's 4 top recruits (lost Dickenson, the Center), and brought in Justin Leon as a transfer. His first class, like Donovan's, was not highly ranked (here I'm using 24/7's composite ranking):
2016 - ranked 65 with Hester (140), Gak (248) & Bassett (290)
2017 - ranked 20 with C Johnson (85), Ballard (101), Stokes (123) & Okauru (260)
2018 - ranked 29 with Nembhard (23), Johnson (69), Locke (80)
Comparing the Gators with Duke & Ky, the avg point values of the classes look like this to date - UF First:
2016 - 86.94 - Ky - 99.55 - Duke 97.31
2017 - 92.94 - Ky - 99.06 - Duke 96.71
2018 - 97.89 - Ky - 99.37 - Duke 99.63
2019 - 98.84 - Ky - 98.88 - Duke not enough yet
So, very clearly, the average quality of Gator recruits has risen both rapidly and steadily and now is approaching Ky's & Duke's level. Of course, rankings involve the Total # of prospects, and since Ky & Duke usually lose 5-15 guys to the NBA, they always recruit far more so their total rankings are always necessarily higher than the Gators.
Another factor is that Coach White, like Coach Donovan, has brought in sensational Transfers, Leon, then Barry & Hudson, then 3Gor, but none this year due to a full roster.
Now anytime you recruit a Top 25 kid, there is a strong possibility of One-N-Done (like Brad Beal), which, of course, reduces experience and requires rapid replacement or shortage, although, given the depth that Coach White has built, something that Billy D really only had one year, 2000, I'm doubt that even One-N-Done will substantially reduce the team's efficacy (note that it was devastating to the Gators in 2008 & 09, and also in 2014, 15.
These trends and histories are very interesting to observe. Note that I just finished John Glubb's The Fate of Empires, which is really, really worth reading, and a Wonderful piece on just how poorly almost all History is used. It is, however, difficult to obtain, much like Kamal Salibi's The Bible Came from Arabia, however, for completely different reasons. You can, however, get his The Secrets of the Bible People, which is better for the newly initiated.
Interesting how FSU has fallen off the map in recruiting since the FBI took over and all. A year ago we considered Payne and Walker FSU leans.
What a pleasant thing to see in my first perusing of NBN today.
Wow - Big Omar! What a get!! Talk about filling a need and with
an "in-State" top flight player. Awesome! Way to go Coach! Welcome to
Gator Country big Omar!!
Now that kids and families are not getting paid by Adidas and other shoe companies or universities to attend certain programs, amazing to see kids with interest in UF. Go Gators!! Hopefully these kids play for more than a year at UF
Hhahahahahahaha... I posted the same on insider board.
A lot like Hays but better on O at this point which is not saying much. put some weight on him 2 years with good coaching he can be a top player.
Hells ya! Perfect fit. Scottie - you're the next contestant, come on down...
He's much much better than Hayes at the same stage fyi. Not even close really.
7'5 wingspan? dayum
We have a couple Spider-Man types coming in.
I think a video analysis I saw equated Lewis to a velociraptor. Payne might be the same. Certainly not a T-Rex with his arm length, ha!