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MUST READ: Official: Discuss the nomination of Judge Brett Kavanaugh to the SCOTUS in this thread.

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by OklahomaGator, Jul 9, 2018.

  1. jhenderson251

    jhenderson251 Premium Member

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    I mean, isn't it a foregone conclusion? There's not really anything democratic Senators can do except hope against hope that Collins will split from the party, which won't happen.

    Barring some indefensible skeleton coming out of Kavanaugh's closet in the coming weeks, he's going to be a Supreme Court justice.
     
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  2. ursidman

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    My point is that he is qualified and its very likely he will be confirmed. If the D's mount a serious opposition (and lose) they will be made to look mean, petty, and overly partisan while energizing the right. The political middle needed by D's to win back the WH will not trend their way in the 2018 election as a result. The important thing for them is to win elections. Don't see a protracted and likely vicious fight as helping in that regard.
     
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  3. bfitzy

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    Lol overly partisan? Like McConnell refusing to even allow a hearing for Garland? And what happened in the senate elections? Nothing - the Rs still retained control. You either make a stand here and at least vote together or lose the base and any real or perceived energy for the midterms.
     
  4. ursidman

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    maybe. But it would not be a hill I would want to die on were I the D leader. Focusing on the fall elections at every level is what is needed. Emphasizing political differences about issues re: toddlers in jail, tariffs, foreign policy is a bigger winner IMO.
     
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  5. bfitzy

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    True. But procedurally what can the dems really do to stop this? Nothing. Perhaps Gillibrand, Harris, Booker and the usual suspects trying to run in 2020 will have some theatrics but I don’t think saying No necessarily hurts red state Dems as much as saying Yes would. Are the Koch’s, trump, whoever not going to attack at every angle those at risk Dems bc they voted in Kavanaugh? Hell, Donnelly, Manchin, and Heitkamp already voted yes on Gorsuch and he’s supposedly more right than Kavanaugh.
     
  6. ursidman

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    Sadly, this is the bottom line. The D's need to work on something that offers some chance for success and change like the fall elections. I don't see strongly opposing this nominee as a winner or as a strategically smart move.
     
  7. bfitzy

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    Agreed. As a moderate who leans left, I’m disgusted at the dems who further drift left and after Trump got elected have not 1 coherent thought or stance that they can all agree on except become outraged at every thing trump does.
     
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  8. ursidman

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    I think then that you and I are in the same observation car on the train and the scenery ain't real great right now.
     
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  9. flg8rfan

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    Same view here but leans to the right. Both sides seem to be in a race to the farthest point from the middle they can go.
     
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  10. Gatormb

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    To quote your buddy: "Elections have consequences. You can move to the back of the bus!"
     
  11. bogeyfred

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    My daughter went to ND law school with Barrett and said she has been a “Rockstar” at every level.
    Definitely no hand maiden. I agree with Bill.
     
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  12. gator_lawyer

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    Uhm, I'm not sure whom my buddy is. If you mean Obama, he didn't say that. Might want to get your facts straight on this one.
     
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  13. shelbygt350

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    BK, labeled controversial or worse, is a guy who to the far left progressives is the worst kind of human being, much less USSC nominee. He is male, white, married to a woman with 2 children, Christian, Constitutionalist, and from a main stream family of parents.

    Sotomayor who became a USSC judge was not, per the progressives, because she was a former member of LaRaza (The Race) which supports no border w/ Mexico, in state tuition for illegals at the expense of citizens children, no voter ID (maybe for check cashing but not voting), and has actually likened the English language is to Hispanics as the KKK is to blacks. But that's all ok to Progressives.
     
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  14. g8orbill

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    You have to get passed the intro but this is an excellent speech

     
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    Ignorant here...did the founding fathers mean for our SC to become to blatantly partisan?
     
  16. GatorRade

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    Good stuff North.

    I think the difference between “he’s bad” and “I don’t agree with him” is highly under appreciated.
     
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  17. g8orbill

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    you read any comments by the old biddy latley- talk about partisan
     
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    Who was the last liberal judge to be chastised by the media in confirmation hearings? Easily the three most contentious were the three most conservative judges. Ginsburger, a former ACLU director, breezed thru, 96-3.
     
  19. gator_lawyer

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    Scalia was contentiously voted through at 98-0. :emoji_smile:
     
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  20. g8orbill

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