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Off Season Strength Program

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by BobbyGator72, Jan 20, 2021.

  1. BobbyGator72

    BobbyGator72 Junior

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    Has anyone (insiders) heard any news about how the off-season strength program is going? I am sure they are taking precautions but I hope that Coach Savage's program is in full swing and we see the results come Spring and next Fall. In particular I think Reese could benefit from losing some bad weight and hopefully Watson has an Ethan White like transformation.
     
  2. GatorMatt06

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    Not that you're saying this, but why are a ton of fans seemingly claiming our S&C program isn't doing it's job this offseason? I've seen enough questions around it that it bothers me - Savage was such a massive leap forward for us as a program and he got a massive raise in the offseason because anyone with eyes can see the players transform.

    If you think the players aren't big or strong enough, we need to be questioning the kinds of players the staff is recruiting (not necessarily the star ratings but the builds). When guys are getting run over for being too small it's typically because we're busy recruiting tweeners instead of specialists. Guys that are too lanky or too small overall for their position. Or we switch guys between corner and safety, and safety and LB, and LB and DE. When our OL is getting pushed back we need to realize that we've been recruiting a lot of 3-star and low 4-star guys on the OL that Hev needs 3 years to develop, and some never work out.

    If we had players coming out saying they weren't getting training again or we didn't see videos of the staff working them, that's different. That's not the case though. Am I missing something?
     
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  3. gatorfan5220

    gatorfan5220 Premium Member

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    Though it would probably never happen I'd love to see Tim Tebow as S and C Coordinator.
     
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  4. ridgetop

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    Savage is an educated, experienced, professional trainer. He leads a staff that is highly regarded. Last summer was kind of unique in case some of you missed it. Kids had to shelter at home, couldn’t work out. Gyms got closed down.... pretty sure we can’t blame Savage for that.
    And now someone wants Tebow.... who has no training, no experience, no credentials to be a S&C coach to take over?
    Savage is literally one of if not the best there is in the business. Let’s just hope that things get back to closer to normal so that he can do his thing.
     
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  5. twodaparty

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    I’d be down to see Tebow as Savage’s assistance strength coach. Talk about a combo!
     
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  6. tigator2019

    tigator2019 GC Legend

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    In my head--- UF
    Covid. Affected the entirety of the program
     
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  7. Skink

    Skink GC Hall of Fame

    The reaction of our fan base here to the disappointment of last season has ventured into the bizarre. Fire Grantham, Mullen would be easily replaced, and now let’s get rid of Savage and bring in Tebow to run S&C. SMFH - bunch of petulant children can’t handle the first bump in the road to recovery. This place is getting too weird for me.
     
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  8. GameTime1

    GameTime1 GC Hall of Fame

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    Posts like this just stir the pot.
    I dont believe anyone said get rid of Savage. It was an innocent comment about Tebow imo. I think you are reading too much into it.
     
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  9. gator2001_1

    gator2001_1 Freshman

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    Why would anyone question this? Seriously? SMH
     
  10. justinwitt07

    justinwitt07 GC Hall of Fame

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    Careful , one of the neighborhood gestapo home owner Assoc ladies is about to lower the boom on u for posing a ? In regards to recruiting. No nuance-soup for u
     
  11. 183gator

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    Tebow as great a Gator as there ever was, but you don't just walk in a strength room and put a together a top notch S & C because you were a great player.
    One move Mullen and company made, that did not seem to make sense was the dismissal of Marc Campbell from the S & C staff, don't get it - played here, captain, lived being a Gator. Worked under some excellent S & C coordinators while here, hired by SOS, kept by Myer, Muschamp, and McElwain - two weeks into Mullen hire and he's dismissed. Like I said he lived it and players loved him, just don't like doing Gators that way.
     
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  12. GatorMatt06

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    I don’t know the background of that but if you read the anonymous Muschamp/Mac player discussing the S&C program it was in disarray.

    Anonymous Player Parting Thoughts I - Strength/Conditioning Program & Facilities

    Now that was Kent’s fault obviously but IMO if a guy is just hanging around and going with the flow with whoever is in charge, that may not be the guy you need to honestly tell you when something isn’t right. Our boys being physically smaller and weaker than the elite in the conference because we were chasing “speed” when they are just as fast, doesn’t make a lot of sense. Football players doing the same stuff as Volleyball players doesn’t make a lot of sense.
     
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  13. BobbyGator72

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    Just to clarify, I was not bashing Savage at all. I really like what he has done with most of our players. I do believe that Covid was tough on our team last year. I was just asking if anyone had heard how it was going. That said I do think that recruiting is a factor especially getting the right players for our system. If you start off bigger, faster, stronger imagine what Savage could do then.
     
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  14. gator_lyn

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    Only National Championship teams were able to disregard shelter-at-home orders and continue working out/practicing during the summer

    wink wink
     
  15. 183gator

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    You don't go to the head coach to tell him, his friend, that he brought in and is paying a very good salary to is not doing his job, not if you want to keep yours.
    Mullen knew Campbell from his time at Florida, hell, Urban cleaned house of SOS people and kept Campbell, should tell you all you need to know
     
  16. Skink

    Skink GC Hall of Fame

    You almost got it right. Only national championship teams have a 3-deep of 5-stars with a few seasons of experience to jump into the season ready to roll. In contrast we had a handful of upper classmen with more experience than talent, and the rest a bunch of talented but unproven freshmen who clearly needed all the practice they could get.

    Big friggin difference

    Did the Bama team organize some off-season activities to compensate for the lack of organized practice? Likely so, but that’s a team with installed leadership experienced in working together. We didn’t and don’t have that - yet.
     
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  17. Gatorfred

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    You don’t stir the pot! Either roll it or pack it.

    Of course I have only seen this is movies and have zero personal experience.
     
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  18. Matthanuf06

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    We are equating lack fo strength to lack of form. Our D missed a lot of tackles not because they are weak but they have awful tackling form.
     
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  19. mkfgator

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    My favorite strength coach criticism generally --not necessarily about any coach in particular--is that somehow you can train your way to never blow an ACL. We're all fans. Logic is not necessarily a prerequisite for being a fan. And with social media, websites, boards, we all type the first thing that goes into our heads. A few days later, I often think differently and wish I would have waited, but that is part of the fun. That's why news media, like ESPN, who think the ultimate truths in the Universe come from Twitter, make unreliable decisions. I think Coach Savage is the man. We lost to Alabama by 6 points. They won because they made more plays--barely. They were better. If anything, any school who recruits athletes from this state ought to have a special discipline coach to teach kids not only discipline on and off the field, but mental preparation for the game and season. And that's all this special coach would do. Our players made a bunch of unreal decisions this year that cost us, and I won't even mention LSU ( although I guess I just did). Penalties hurt us against Alabama more than any of their linemen's bench press maxes.
     
  20. grant1

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    We didn't seem particularly strong this year, but who's to say what the root cause was.