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Ocasio-Cortez Calls Capitalism Irredeemable

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ncargat1, Mar 10, 2019.

  1. ncargat1

    ncargat1 VIP Member

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    I will link story and quotes later, but I wanted to pose the question. As a lifelong Democrat (until recently) I find that I have little to nothing in common with the farthest left part of the Democratic party. I have re-register in my state as an independent.

    In her speech Cortez blames Capitalism for wealth inequality among other things. And, in thinking about this, I agree with her. But, in any system there are winners and losers
    Some folks with advantages and others with disadvantages. So, is Capitalism really the root of the problem or basic human nature?

    Bigger question, do people feel like AOC and Bernie Sanders and some of the others on the far left eventually gain enough support to truly have an impact on our nation? If so, will those impacts be positive or negative? Just curious about how people here view her politics and positions?

    Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
     
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  2. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    It's been said that capitalism is the worst economic system ... except for all the others. Yes, there are problems with our current system. But I certainly hope that Ocasio-Cortez doesn't have a lot of people who agree with her.

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  3. VAg8r1

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    I suspect that once the Democratic primary campaign for the presidency begins in earnest, AOC will become much less relevant with the focus being on the actual candidates for the party's nomination and none of them, with the possible exception of Bernie, is as far to the left as AOC.
     
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  4. uftaipan

    uftaipan GC Hall of Fame

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    Ah, because there was no “wealth inequality” in all of the systems that predated capitalism. Got it. We should all return to the workers' paradises that were feudal Europe or ancient Egypt. AOC is a genius as usual.

    By the way, the real “winners” in socialism have always been and always will be the Ruling Class, of which she would conveniently be a part in her vision. Do you think they ever intend to impose the same restrictive “equalizing” measures on themselves that would on the rest of us? Hell, no.
     
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  5. HallGator

    HallGator Senile Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    I can't figure out why she garners that much attention.
     
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  6. gatorknights

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    Those brainwashers down there on the corner of W. University and 13th Street had us twerps study all the "ism" systems. Capitalism, socialism, communism, heck even abstract expressionism from strictly anthropological disinterested third party point of view. Almost without exception, turns out that all the systems are pretty good. It's just when you toss we talking monkeys into the mix that things go sideways. And yes, capitalism rewards handsomely income inequality if that's what the monkeys want it to do. I believe there's a pretty good example floating out there somewhere. :emoji_thinking:
     
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  7. VAg8r1

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    Ironically, she receives much more attention from the right than she does from the left. In answer to your question, it's a combination of factors including her improbable upset of a long-term incumbent in the Democratic primary in her district, her love for publicity along with her facility with social media and the need for a Democratic politician to demonize by the right-wing media now that "Crooked Hillary" has become a has-been. The righties want to make her the face of the Democratic Party even though she's really on the fringe.
     
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  8. g8trjax

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    The lefties here probably won't watch but the whole AOC scam is starting to come to light. This won't end well.

     
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  9. GatorFanCF

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    I agree w/ AOC on capitalism; and, disagree with her on the solution.

    As Rivergator quoted “Capitalism is the worst system - except for all others...”

    Hierarchies exist in nature and have for millions, perhaps billions of years.
     
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  10. nobbqsauce

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    Im not sure this is completely true. Yahoo runs at least one story if not several on her every day. Democratic presidential hopefuls jumped on her new green deal without really knowing all that was in it, Huffpo is in love with her. The fact that she publically espouses nonsensical ideas, attempts to engage in Twitter wars and addresses congress as if they were 2nd graders may be reasons she is getting attention.
    Will the right use this to their advantage? Absolutely. But the idea that the right is the one promoting her solely for her to be the face of the Democrats and be a boogeyman isnt true. She is getting plenty of face time, print and exposure from the left and left leaning media. You can't just decide not to own her and blame the right for her popularity.
     
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  11. GatorNavy

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    She seeks the attention and revels in it. She does alot of interviews and tweets incessantly. She puts herself out there.
     
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  12. gatorknights

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    Reminds me of someone else. How much must have her opponent sucked?
     
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  13. tarponbro

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    Look at some of the crowds at Democrat candidates town hall meetings, etc. There are A LOT of young faces in these crowds. Perhaps they will get active in our political system or at least just vote. Twenty years from now there may be significant change in our attitudes toward a national health care plan, a better way to get a college education than paying through the nose for it, and significantly higher wages for those folks at the bottom and middle of the economic ladder. Our young citizens may be a major force in deciding issues like these before very long.
     
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  14. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    I don't think she herself has any power or real influence, other than to chase voters to the GOP.
     
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  15. BigCypressGator1981

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    I think a blend of capitalism and socialism is the ideal answer for the foreseeable future. Similar to what we have now but with a few important changes in the direction of socialism.

    Health care needs to be socialized. At least as far as basic needs are concerned. Keep high end & specialized services privatized for those that want it.

    Higher taxes on the uber wealthy to pay for massive infrastructure upgrades and public schooling upgrades.
     
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  16. tarponbro

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    WE ARE ALL STILL JUST A BUNCH OF MONKEYS WITH CLOTHES ON!!!
     
  17. tarponbro

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    In addition to this, how many people get elected to the House of Representatives at age 29? Right now when you look at her age, political orientation and public statements she's a news network's "dream girl", as far as getting higher ratings for the network goes.
     
  18. gatorknights

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    But I miss my fur, and this tie thingy serves not apparent purpose other that to perpetuate my smoke and mirrors strategy.
     
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  19. GatorNate96

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    I know you believe this is some kind of Blockbuster revelation, but it happens all the time.
     
  20. tarponbro

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    You miss your fur, huh? I have hair on my back, do you want some (insert monkey sounds here)?
     
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