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O’rourke Announces

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by FearNoSpear, Mar 14, 2019 at 7:55 PM.

  1. FearNoSpear

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  2. docspor

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    Hurry. He’s scrubbing the net. VP seems like the ceiling for A bass player

     
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  3. fastsix

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    Duh, everybody knows the saxophone is the most presidential of instruments.

     
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  4. gator7_5

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    Damn, cat was slick for sure.
     
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  5. CaptUSMCNole

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    So we have a furry running for POTUS now?

    Thanks, Trump.
     
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  6. ursidman

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    I don't know much about him other than he was able to capture the I-Hate-TedCruz vote in Texas. What are his policies that you support?
     
  7. CaptUSMCNole

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    His message was not centrist when he ran for Senate in Texas.

    And he lost an election to the least liked Senator, who also happens to be the Zodiac Killer. What ever happened to the old Daily Democratic adage of “Don’t back no losers”?
     
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  8. gator_lawyer

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    Huge fan of O'Rourke. Tremendous orator and person.
     
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  9. gator_lawyer

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    Not at all. Cruz is more popular than you'd expect in Texas. O'Rourke nearly beat him by driving turnout through the roof for a mid-term election (especially with young and first-time voters), flipping moderates (he won Tarrant County, for example, which was known for being the largest red-leaning county in the country), and preaching a unifying message. He's progressive, but he's closer to the middle than most progressives.

    Cruz not being liked nationally is irrelevant to the perception of him in Texas. O'Rourke nearly won a state considered to be a Republican stronghold. By doing so, Democrats down the ballot saw a number of major wins. Frankly, nobody expected O'Rourke to win. The fact that he almost did blew people away. If he were running in a true swing state, he would have wiped the floor with Cruz. Simply put, I see him as Trump's biggest threat, and some Republicans apparently do too (because they were running attack ads against him before he even announced).
     
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  10. fubar1

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    A centrist? You have to be kidding me. The guy wants to tear down any walls we currently have at the border.

    Calling this guy a centrist is seiously moving the goalposts.
     
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  11. g8trjax

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    The last great hope of earth!

     
  12. gator_lawyer

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    Yeah, what would the guy who grew up in and represented El Paso know about the border? I get all my border opinions from Lindsey Graham. His experience with the South Carolina-Mexico border is unmatched. :emoji_joy:
     
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  13. fubar1

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    So you’re on the record as being for the removal of all border walls and barriers?
     
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  14. FearNoSpear

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    I come from a long line of farmers so his emphasis on agriculture appeals to me.

    I like that he opposes the wall so strongly. I know people are stuck on it but it wouldn't stop an of the issues people claim it will. Illegal Immigrants, Sex Trafficking and Illegal Drugs come over on private air travel. There are brighter and more efficient ways to achieve the objective. Not to mention there are far more issues that cost us more money and fatalities than illegal immigration and illegal drugs.

    He is for immigration reform.

    He is for closing privately owned prisons and criminal justice reform.

    He is against cash bail. It's not fair for those at a lower income bracket who are already at a systematic disadvantage.

    He is environmentally conscious and expresses concerns about our oceans.

    He is against raising income taxes.

    He is for breaking up monopolies and creating more competition which is great for the economy.

    He is for the legalization and decriminalization of cannabis.

    The negatives for me.

    Now I am not a cheer leader for government healthcare and I strongly opposed the Affordable Care Act. However people will call him a socialist because he supports the Affordable Care Act. That doesn't make someone a socialist. It just another service at that point. If it does then everyone who lives in a city is a socialist. People are conditioned to be alarmed by buzzwords. We are not a truly capitalistic or socialistic society. The majority of people know this. We will never be one or the other. That's not how the United States works yet some people allow blowhards to put fear into them.

    I do not share his opinions on gun reform.

    There is not a perfect candidate. I will never fully agree with any of them. His positives out weigh his negatives for my views. He's also doesn't appear to be a disgusting human being like a lot of candidates.

    I would love an O'Rourke/Klobuchar ticket.
     
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    It would depend on the cost/benefit analysis of removal vs. maintenance. If you listen to his explanation and then go check the facts, he's right on all of it.
     
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    Don't knock Lindsey Graham's experience with borders:

    South Of The Border ~ America’s Favorite Highway Oasis
     
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    Well he's definitely got the party like a rock star, drive home chit faced drunk, hit a vehicle spin into oncoming traffic, try to leave the scene, lie to the police, get little or no attention due to his judge daddy and the D after his name going for him.

    Police reports detail Beto O'Rourke's 1998 DWI arrest
     
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  18. gator_lawyer

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    That's all you have? Typical. You can try to drag Beto O'Rourke into the mud with you, but he won't go there. He has class and decency. Here are a few issues with your claims:
    1. Beto was 26 at the time, so he had no D after his name going for him. And before you try to claim that he got off because his daddy was a prominent Democrat, his father was a Republican in 1998.

    2. His "judge daddy" left the bench in 1986.

    3. He got little to no attention because he was a nobody at that time. Like most first-time offenders, he completed a court-recommended program, which resulted in the charges being dismissed.

    4. O'Rourke doesn't make excuses for it and admits he made a terrible mistake. He hasn't had a brush with the law since that time. That was over 20 years ago.

    5. Beto's father, Pat, was killed after being struck by a car while riding his bicycle only three years later in 2001. I expect that played a large role in the man Beto has become. I imagine after that tragedy, he recognized the gravity of driving drunk (if he did not already).

    It speaks volumes that you are engaging in mudslinging over a DWI arrest from 20 years ago instead of focusing on the man he is today. It's also sad this is what politics is today. I think the world of Beto precisely because he doesn't do what you're doing. He runs on ideas and unity rather than insults and division.
     
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  19. LimeyGator

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    I am enjoying watching your election unfold and this guy was a name that caught my eye (mostly as he sounds like he's fallen out of a western, gun-slinger movie...)

    He seems to be a popular choice, albeit inexperienced?

    As an outsider, I can't see anything he's done in his past coming back to hurt his election chances - or many candidates for 2020 - wouldn't it be a bit hypocritical or is that just me?!

    Personally, I have no problem with people making mistakes, providing they attempt to learn from them. Nobody is perfect, nor is it an achievable aim!
     
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  20. citygator

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    Still would prefer a governor for some real administrative experience. However I always like a positive message.

     
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