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Norweigan to Pull Cruises from Florida

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, May 7, 2021.

  1. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    if they cannot enforce vaccine requirements. congratulations DeSantis

    Cruise giant Norwegian threatens to skip Florida's ports - ABC News (go.com)

    Miami-based Norwegian Cruise Line Holdings is threatening to keep its ships out of Florida after the governor signed legislation banning businesses from requiring that customers show proof of vaccination against COVID-19.

    The company says the law signed by Gov. Ron DeSantis is at odds with guidelines from federal health authorities that would let cruise ships sail in U.S. waters if nearly all passengers and crew members are vaccinated.

    “It is a classic state-versus-federal-government issue,” said Norwegian's CEO, Frank Del Rio. “Lawyers believe that federal law applies and not state law, but I’m not a lawyer. And we hope that this doesn’t become a legal football or a political football.” The company owns Norwegian Cruise Line, Oceania Cruises and Regent Seven Seas Cruises.

    Del Rio told analysts during the company's quarterly earnings call Thursday that if the company can’t operate in Florida, it can go to other states or the Caribbean “for ships that otherwise would have gone to Florida ... we certainly hope it doesn't come to that.”
     
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  2. ElimiGator

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  3. exiledgator

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    .... Billions of dollars and jobs
     
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  4. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    obviously your livelihood is not tied to Norweigan cruise lines
     
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  5. RIP

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    This was inevitable. A cruise ship is exactly where vaccines should be mandatory. An outbreak could leave you stranded offshore or cost the line money by having to cut trips short. This was a huge mistake by DeSantis.
     
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  6. sierragator

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    a giant floating wal mart full of covid... good times!
     
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  7. OklahomaGator

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    All of their cruises will just originate from the Bahamas or some other Caribbean Island.
     
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  8. oragator1

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    Will be interesting to see what airlines do in a few months.
     
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  9. OklahomaGator

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    I don't think it is up to the airlines, it is up to the FAA.
     
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  10. gtr2x

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    No sympathy for the cruise lines and it's about the last place I would want to be but this would be a major hit for Miami. I believe Miami also just built a new terminal for RCL.
     
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  11. thomadm

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    Never understood why people want to spend a ton of $$$ to sit on a overcrowded boat and get dysentery. Sounds like hell to me. Miami will be fine.
     
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  12. vaxcardinal

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    the food tastes good going down
     
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  13. VAg8r1

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    Or states that allow them to require proof of vaccination.
     
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  14. WarDamnGator

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    It's not a clear cut as DeSantis wants you to think. There appears to be plenty of grounds to fight the application of his order to Cruise Ships.

    Whether DeSantis actually has authority to bar cruise lines from requiring vaccinations could become the focus of a legal battle involving the cruise lines and the CDC.

    The Coast Guard and the CDC have asserted control over pandemic-related cruise line activity at the port, but most decisions have been made by a “unified command” that includes the state, federal and county governments, working with the cruise lines, said Ellen Kennedy, spokeswoman for Port Everglades.

    Asked about DeSantis’ assertion, Port Director Jonathan Daniels said by email: “We are working with the cruise lines and through all local, state and federal regulations and guidelines to effect a safe restart to cruising.”

    However, attorneys familiar with issues of government regulations and maritime law question whether DeSantis’ authority extends to cruise lines, which are foreign-registered corporations operating foreign-flagged ships in mostly international waters.

    Another cruise line will require vaccines; DeSantis says no
     
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  15. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    Fed law requires vaccinations to return to operations. Which law has priority.

    Not just Miami. Ft Lauderdale too. Thousands of Florida residents work those docks, clean and supply those ships, house and feed those passengers before and after the cruise.
     
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  16. littlebluelw

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    Tampa and Canaveral too. Something will get worked out. Too much $ on the line.
     
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  17. BLING

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    What is there to “work out”? This appears to be a grandstanding move. DeSantis doesn’t seem to have much of a legal leg to stand on (either against the international cruise industry, or the fed govt). The options appear to be (1)keep grandstanding or (2)let the cruises resume safely. I don’t see an option to force them to operate against federal and international law (as well as common sense).
     
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  18. gators81

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    Not to mentions the jobs at the airports, hotels, and restaurants for non Florida residents coming into the state for cruises.
     
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  19. littlebluelw

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    IDK. Ask the know it all lawyers.
     
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  20. VAg8r1

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    As opposed to the "know nothing" governor.
    Edit: Probably shouldn't have referred to DeSantis as "know nothing". He knows exactly what he is doing. His ban on private companies requiring proof of vaccination is essentially a meaningless political stunt and Ron DeSantis knows it but decided to impose the ban as a vehicle to appeal to his low information Trumpian supporters.
     
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