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Newcomer of the year on the mound? Place bets...

Discussion in 'Diamond Gators' started by kgator27, Aug 20, 2018.

  1. gatorfan5220

    gatorfan5220 Premium Member

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    74, what kind of pitcher was your son?

    What were his strengths?
     
  2. paidinfull

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    Alan Horne - BR Bullpen
     
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  3. gatorfan5220

    gatorfan5220 Premium Member

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    Paid, any chance you might translate "BR"?
     
  4. paidinfull

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    “Baseball reference”. It’s just a web link with some info about 74’s son.

    I was just letting you know who he was and then you could see his specs yourself. I’m sure 74 will also fill you in when he has a chance to.
     
  5. gatorfan5220

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    Thank you Paid. Was not aware of that reference area.
     
  6. 74nole

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    @paidinfull gave you a great link for Alan’s professional career—In HS and College he was considered a hard throwing RHP. He topped out to my knowledge at 97 throwing both two-seam and four-seam FB’s—the four seamer generally sat 93-94 grabbing a different gear when needed—the two-seamer generally was 90-92 with late hard run and sink—his curve ball could make other pitchers jealous, a real tight spin “hammer”—the slider came into it’s own for him while he was here at UF—the change gained ground for him both at UF and during his time with the NYY—
    You are obviously getting my opinion but that’s what you asked for, lol—IMHO he had the misfortune of having one of the bodies that just wouldn’t hold up to the grind in the long run—I’ll always believe the talent was there—
     
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  7. kgator27

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    With all the mention of McMullen and Ruth, I remember reading about the "Battle of the UF Commits" in the paper, when they faced each other in HS. Buchholz beat Forest like 6-0. Quite a while ago, but fun little flashback.
     
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  8. gatorfan5220

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    Methinks Ruth, fully healed, could be quite a performer.
     
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  9. 74nole

    74nole GC Hall of Fame

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    5220--

    Agree completely, just remember his timeline--
    You can set'em up to succeed--or you can set'em up to fail--I really look forward to seeing him hit his stride--
     
  10. GatorLurker

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    IMHO he had the misfortune of having one of the bodies that just wouldn’t hold up to the grind in the long run—I’ll always believe the talent was there—[/QUOTE]

    I think that this happens to a lot of kids. I think that Mark "The Bird" Fidrych would have never made The Show if he went through the usual path of years in the minors first as his arm would have given out before he made it. Instead he played weekend ball and caught a scout's eye and quickly made the majors and was sensational. Then his arm gave out rather quickly.

    Guys like Nolan Ryan are really exceptional.
     
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  11. 74nole

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    I think that this happens to a lot of kids. I think that Mark "The Bird" Fidrych would have never made The Show if he went through the usual path of years in the minors first as his arm would have given out before he made it. Instead he played weekend ball and caught a scout's eye and quickly made the majors and was sensational. Then his arm gave out rather quickly.

    Guys like Nolan Ryan are really exceptional.[/QUOTE]

    So true Dave, so true....the good fortune of good health mixed with the same good fortune of good luck is truly key in this great dream for so many guys--
     
  12. GatorLurker

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    Back when we were young pitchers in The Show didn't make the kind of money that they do now. Back then I knew the odds and decided to take a pass on trying to follow that dream and instead followed an academic career.

    If I was making that decision now it would be totally different. I would buy that lottery ticket.
     
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  13. gatorfan5220

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    Early enrolled and January arrival Nolan Crisp is my choice.

    Yes, he will miss Fall practice but he has the pitches and control to be a hellacious reliever.
     
  14. 74nole

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    Does his past pitching history track as a reliever or as a starter?
     
  15. kgator27

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    Whoa, that's a big call on Crisp. I'll defer to my comments on the "Roster 2019" thread about Juco transfer Alintoff (below). Delete "SWFSC" and insert "High School". Every kid on the roster has the pitches to be hellacious, but at 17? Hmm.

    Re: Alintoffs control and success at Juco:
    Pumping strikes to guys at Southwest Florida State College is a tad different than pumping strikes to LSU's Beau and Bryce Jordan in front of 10,000 drunk fans in Baton Rogue.
     
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  16. kgator27

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    First, pick whomever you want, that's cool...it's a fun discussion, not a testy debate.

    Second, in the first post I suggested guessing the 5 "biggest new contributors" followed by a list of all the candidates (ex Mace and Leftwich).

    Have fun with it ladies and gents.
     
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  17. gatorfan5220

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    Lol...
     
  18. gatorfan5220

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    74 it was said he has a "reliever profile".
     
  19. 74nole

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    Copy that--I'm sure Sully has a good idea for him as he has recruited him into the program--we'll just have to see how he adjusts to the D-1 stage and lock'n'load--
     
  20. gatorfan5220

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    74, it sure sounds like it will be fun to watch it all play out.

    People who have seen Crisp pitch speak glowingly of him and word is he has 3 pitches he controls nicely.

    Another newcomer is David Leuthje and there are a few other promising frosh.

    Fall practice will be interesting to follow and we'll have to wait till January for Crisp as well as Fabian to show up.

    Sully is definitely keeping the excitement level high for Gator baseball.
     
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