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NCAA Rule Changes - Redshirts and Transfers

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by incoldblood, Jun 13, 2018.

  1. incoldblood

    incoldblood GC Legend

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    The NCAA has passed two new rules changes:

    1- Players can now play in up to four games and still redshirt

    2- Coaches can no longer block players from transfering to any specific school
     
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  2. savgator1956

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    Saban won't like this
     
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  3. your_perfect_enemy

    your_perfect_enemy GC Hall of Fame

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    Is it any 4 games? I don't know why but, for some reason I feel like it should only be the first 4 games otherwise there's going to be some gaming the system
     
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  4. incoldblood

    incoldblood GC Legend

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    He sure won't. He has been vocal about keeping the rule as-is.
     
  5. incoldblood

    incoldblood GC Legend

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    I believe it is any four games. Of course coaches will game the system.
     
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  6. MtownGator

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    Pandora's box?
     
  7. INGATORSWETRUST

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    Good. There should be some positive player initiatives. Now can come in at end of season, if an injury late in year, weakens depth chart, and still not lose the year. Personally I would give them 5 years, if they only play special teams the first year. The longer they stay in college, the more likely to also get grad degree while there
     
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  8. UF24ou14

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    So some of those 5 stars that he keeps piling up will start transferring. He's like Bear Bryant who would sign players just to keep them from going elsewhere and competing against Bama.
     
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  9. mulegator

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    Gaming the system?
    Isn't that what every smart coach does?
     
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  10. manigordo

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    Maybe, but with your signature, I would have guessed that you would have an unfavorable opinion of "gaming the system."

    On a lighter note, I was just at the most significant Neandertal dig in the world (Les Eyzies, France); 8 of the 21 full skeletons found there. I met with one of the heads of the dig and learned mountains about Neandertal!

    I know.... multiple off topics to the post. Sorry....

    HOw about, speaking of Alabama...Neandertals!
     
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  11. CHFG8R

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    Bingo! So much easier. Just give them 5 years and be done with it.

    Not a huge fan of not being able to block. I think there should be some conditions where you can, or maybe you allow up to a certain number of schools. I can see this turning into a real *&%$show, especially when you consider how dirty the recruiting game is anyway. The idea of schools recruiting - actively or through intermediaries - players on the current roster is problematic (and inevitable IMO) to say the least.
     
  12. mulegator

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    Gaming the system simply means taking advantage of the rules to give your guys a better chance to win.
     
  13. Spurffelbow833

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    Players who skip the bowl game before the draft should have to refund that entire year of their scholarships. Don't get drafted? Don't get paid much? Too bad. Pay up. The young world is drowning in student loan debt. If that's all your chance to play college football meant to you, get in line with everyone else.
     
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  14. your_perfect_enemy

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    You're right on this and your later post about just taking advantage of the rules presented. I don't think gaming the system is the right phrase, maybe not do it in the spirit of the rule? I could just be completely wrong on this but just picking random games to play the guys in doesn't feel right to me
     
  15. theghost

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    There's no "system" to game here. It's actually quite simple: they can play in ANY four games. Key word is "any". If they play in five games guess what happens....they can't redshirt. The old "system" got gamed. Because if you played in 1 game you're supposed to lose a redshirt...hell, 1 play. But the schools "gamed the system" by saying "he was injured" and that garnered a redshirt.

    I like the new rule. It's good for college football.
     
  16. themistocles

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    Historically, the # of games has been a percentage. 3 games is 25% of 12, 4 is 33%.

    I guess it makes a certain amount more sense to set that at 3 than 4, although when you get a kid who does the opening kickoff in the 4th game, then is crippled for a year, it does make a lot of sense to use 4.

    I tend to agree with Saban on this one although generally, I feel that the Transfer rules have always been excessively restrictive to the kids, who are the important people, not the Coaches, Funder$ or the Fans. If you can get accepted, in today's College Environment, Transfer is used by 60% of those who graduate, although a lot of those are CC Transfers.
     
  17. theghost

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    It was a percentage of games....but the school also had to claim it was due to medical reasons (he injured his toe, or pulled a hamstring). Basically, they were forced to lie to save the redshirt. And it could only be within the first 3 games. This new rule is much more clear on that; no more lying about an injury and they can play the 12th game of the year, or the bowl game and not lose the year. It's a great change for college football.
     
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  18. 96Gatorcise

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    definitely some planning and gamesmanship will have to be played.

    When do you bring a kid in? If it appears you have a chance to make it to the championship game, you would have to delay bringing in a kid until the last game of the regular season.

    If you have no hope of making your conference game. You can give young guys plenty of late year experience in the regular season.
     
  19. grantgator

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    This is not changing the fact that they generally will still have to sit a year when they transfer. I think I like this change as it gives the players at least a little bit of control back. Blocking a transfer was just a crap move, if they weren't good enough to play for your team, why the big worry anyway?
     
  20. CHFG8R

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    I agree for the most part. But what if it's just the result of a logjam. Do we really want to see F$U (or whomever) sending feelers out to our 2nd string guys mid-season?