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Navy probes footage of military dogs mauling 'target' wearing Kaepernick jersey at SEAL Museum event

Discussion in 'GatorNana's Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by orangeblue_coop, Aug 3, 2020.

  1. leftcoastgator

    leftcoastgator Ambivalent Zealot Premium Member

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    Your tolerance of different viewpoints is an example for us all.
     
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  2. LouisvilleGator

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    B..b.. but I thought our military supported kneeling during the National Anthem.
     
  3. LouisvilleGator

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    So you’re saying he’s a bad example because he doesn’t support a murderous Commie regime?

    Ladies and gentleman, your modern day progressive.
     
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  4. mutz87

    mutz87 #nowaytospinit VIP Member

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    Castro wasn't oppressive or murderous. It was propaganda by Cuban dissidents.
     
  5. murphree_hall

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    We saw this happen in the 1960’s. Interesting that you would like to see that return. What you are suggesting would be a complete violation of the Navy’s core values. Also not sure what Kaepernick is being hypocritical about, unless the definition of that word has changed.
     
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  6. leftcoastgator

    leftcoastgator Ambivalent Zealot Premium Member

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    No, because he thinks it’s OK for people he disagrees with to be attacked by dogs.

    Ladies and gentleman, your modern day make-believe “conservative.”
     
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  7. orangeblue_coop

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    Of course they’d love to see it return, according to some of them that’s when “America was great”
     
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  8. orangeblue_coop

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    I wasn’t aware this stunt spoke on behalf of all 1.3 million military members
     
  9. murphree_hall

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    “The Greatest Generation” is what we call them, right?
     
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  10. gatorpika

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    Are you serious? There have been thousands of documented murders and human rights organizations have worked for years to free political prisoners. Did Che get the nickname "the butcher of La Cabaña" because the brought steaks to the prisoners? Here's a link to a project where they are trying to document the deaths under the regime.

    Home - Cuba Archive

    WSJ article on it:

    Counting Castro's Victims
     
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  11. mutz87

    mutz87 #nowaytospinit VIP Member

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    I wasn't serious.

    Denying the obvious about Castro is imo the same league as denying systemic racism in policing.
     
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  12. gatorpika

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    He wasn't hypocritical but he chose a controversial way to protest and that was going to create backlash. I have never understood why some people think pissing off large numbers of people helps their cause. It brings awareness only in the people that already agree with them while the people that don't won't listen to them anymore.
     
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  13. mutz87

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    White people have been making this same argument throughout history about blacks who protest. I don't think CK or any other black person need worry about pissing whites off because reasoning with those who hold onto their racism and dig in about their white supremacy is damn near impossible to change. People don't like to be wrong and thus resist. So you push until change occurs because it cannot not occur.
     
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  14. gatorpika

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    You are missing the point. If you are trying to change minds, why do it by pissing people off? People tend not to listen when they are pissed off. King marched peacefully with people singing and in their Sunday best while they were abused by white people. That's an effective protest. Acting out to "bring awareness" usually brings more awareness of the acting out than the cause. Was the media coverage largely about kneeling or did it go into depth about what upset him?
     
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  15. mutz87

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    CK protested peacefully, which is to say no matter how blacks protest, there will be legions of white people who will react negatively. No need to worry about it. When King protested, most whites disliked him. The FBI tracked his every move, and eventually he was assassinated.
     
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  16. gatorpika

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    He also convinced a far more racist society to pass the civil rights act and voting rights act. Are the people in Portland who are trying to burn down the federal courthouse helpful to BLM or do they hurt the cause? Seems like they changed the subject to Trump and his "brown shirts". If someone poops on your lawn and tells you that they are trying to bring awareness about the plight of nesting sea turtles, would you be thinking about turtles or the poop on your lawn and psycho in your yard?
     
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  17. murphree_hall

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    What protest doesn’t upset a large number of people? Isn’t that kind of the point? I don’t think the marches and bus boycotts of the 1960’s made the other side very happy.

    Kaepernick didn’t really do anything wildly controversial. The reaction to a man simply taking a knee is what was controversial.
     
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  18. MaceoP

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    I’m not trying to downplay this incident, but why is someone who. Is half white and half black considered black? At what percentage of European heritage is someone considered white? Aside from the racist pure blood past, it seems we are still using some of these archaic definitions, whatever they are
     
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    King marched peacefully with people singing, yet still had a high public disapproval rating at the time of his death. America simple never has and never will like it when black people protest period, whether it’s a peaceful march, silently taking a knee or hurling a Molotov cocktail at a police station.
     
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  20. orangeblue_coop

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    Being half white and half black didn’t stop people from calling Obama the first black president.