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MLB lifts ban on Pete Rose

Discussion in 'GatorGrowl's Diamond Gators' started by g8orbill, May 13, 2025 at 4:42 PM.

  1. g8orbill

    g8orbill Old Gator Moderator VIP Member

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  2. GatorLurker

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    Good to see that the ban on "Shoeless" Joe Jackson was also lifted. Should have reinstated Buck Weaver as well as he didn't throw the 1919 World Series but was one of the eight men out. It would be mostly symbolic for Weaver because he wasn't HOF material but Jackson certainly was.

    Added in edit: Weaver was reinstated. The story in the link didn't mention that.
     
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  3. GatorLurker

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    I should add that as far as my research goes about the 1919 Black Sox scandal Shoeless Joe did take the money but didn't do anything on the field to throw the series. Maybe he wasn't going to do anything until a crucial moment or maybe he just took the money and played ball the best that he could and what would those gamblers do to him. Who knows.
    Buck Weaver told the guys that he wanted nothing to do with throwing the World Series and didn't take any money but he did know about the attempt to throw it.

    Buck Weaver was banned from baseball for not ratting out his teammates.

    That is cold. They were your teammates. You gotta have your teammates' back even if you don't like them.

    Of course they never approached Eddie Collins who was a "college boy" and was never one of them. Great second sacker, though.
     
  4. TJtheGator

    TJtheGator GC Hall of Fame

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    It was a lifetime ban, not an eternal ban.

    His life ended. Ban is over.

    It was the correct decision.
     
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  5. GatorLurker

    GatorLurker GC Hall of Fame

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    Buck Weaver was not a part of the throwing of the 1919 Series but he was one of the eight men out and his offspring kept asking baseball commisioners to reinstate him years after his death and they didn't. So much for your being dead lifts the ban.

    And Shoeless Joe Jackson has been dead a long time. A lot longer than Pete Rose has been dead.
     
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  6. GatorLurker

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    We all know that Pete Rose bet on baseball. And he did it as a manager of a team. If he had a bet on his own team would he burn his bullpen to get the W and win the bet?

    And lose the next two games?
     
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  7. TJtheGator

    TJtheGator GC Hall of Fame

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    Has any MLB commisiomer addressed this before?

    I don’t believe so, and again it’s all in the wording. These individuals received “lifetime” bans. The ban lasts as long as your life lasts. That is my interpretation with zero emotion applied, based solely on the language provided by MLB. I am not an attorney, but I’m surprised this has not been addressed by attorneys representing those individuals before.

    Regardless, just one man’s opinion
     
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  9. gtr2x

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    This is the result I have always expected. Certainly, his playing stats are HOF worthy, but not his character (gambling). I have never thought he deserved the HOF acclaim while alive. Maybe the HOF needs a separate wing for the cheaters.
     
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  10. WESGATORS

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    I bet it'd be a big wing...

    Go GATORS!
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    Guess it depends on what u consider cheating, and felony or misdemeanor. Stealing signs not in the same wing as betting on games.
     
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