You just don't get it. Yes or no, if the Indiana state government stops ending out needless, does the drug use rate change? Yes or no, if the government hand out needles, does the HIV transmission rate go down? Nobody is saying it's Pence's fault that drug users who shared needles got HIV. But when Pence stopped the needle program, the drug use rate stayed the same, but HIV rates went up. So what's the positive of stopping the needle program?