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Michael Flynn

Discussion in 'GatorNana's Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by tampajack1, Nov 24, 2020.

  1. tampajack1

    tampajack1 Premium Member

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    The word is out that Trump is about to pardon Flynn.
     
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  2. Trickster

    Trickster Premium Member

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    I can't believe it got out!
     
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  3. ursidman

    ursidman VIP Member

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    Yes, of course because nothing wrong with lying to the FBI if you're friends with benefits with trump. I'm thinking the Friday after Thanksgiving.
    Trump tells confidants he plans to pardon Michael Flynn
    Behind the scenes: Sources with direct knowledge of the discussions said Flynn will be part of a series of pardons that Trump issues between now and when he leaves office. (how many will be named trump?)
     
  4. leftcoastgator

    leftcoastgator Ambivalent Zealot Premium Member

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    Or Kushner.

    But there is a solid legal case that he cannot pardon himself.
     
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  5. PacificBlueGator

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    Trump resigns, Pence pardons Trump, Trump doesn't face obstruction charges or have to attend inauguration
     
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  6. GatorJMDZ

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    I don't think his ego will allow him to resign and I also don't believe he cares about appearances if he doesn't attend Biden's inauguration. He'll be home tweeting about rigged elections and fake presidents the entire time. I think he will either attempt to pardon himself or perhaps undergo a medical procedure during which time Pence becomes Acting President under the 25th Amendment and Pence can issue pardons during that time period.

    On the pardon list:
    1. All of his adult children and their spouses.
    2. Flynn.
    3. Barr.
    4. Pompeo.

    There will be many more, these come to mind immediately.
     
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  7. gatorchamps960608

    gatorchamps960608 GC Hall of Fame

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    Can't pardon crimes where he is a co-conspirator.
     
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  8. AndyGator

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    We all knew this was coming.
     
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  9. G8trGr8t

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    Can you pardon someone who hasn't been accused?
     
  10. studegator

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    I parden myself for any crimes that may come to light after I'm out of office.
    Stinky feet
     
  11. PerSeGator

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    The short answer is probably, but SCOTUS has never decided that issue definitively.
     
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  12. PerSeGator

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    On topic -- it's obvious Flynn has been told he will be pardoned. Otherwise he would be stamping his feet and demanding that the court rule on the government's motion to dismiss.
     
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  13. FutureGatorMom

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    That's a question I have too. How can you pre pardon yourself before you're indicted?
     
  14. GatorJMDZ

    GatorJMDZ gatorjack VIP Member

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    Nixon was.

    "A full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9,1974."
     
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  15. GatorJMDZ

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    That's an untested theory, that limitation does not appear in the US Constitution.
     
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  16. gator7_5

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    The only people interested in pressing fabricated criminal charges against Trump are the too hot liberals.
     
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  17. FutureGatorMom

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    He resigned though first and Gerald Ford pardoned him. Would Trump be able to pardon himself if he doesn't resign first?
     
  18. GatorJMDZ

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    Trump is an unindicted coconspirator in the Michael Cohen case. Mueller found multiple indictable instances of obstruction of justice. That is the visible part of the iceberg.
     
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  19. GatorJMDZ

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    Open question. The US Constitution, on its face, does not prohibit it.
     
  20. ValdostaGatorFan

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    One of my favorite YouTube channels these days, LegalEagle. He covered the topic of self pardons about a year ago.

     
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