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Manatee County Emergency

Discussion in 'GatorNana's Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Apr 3, 2021.

  1. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    then why not strip the nitrogen and phosphorous using high pressure reverse osmosis? certainly there is a filter that can capture that. Call in the bonds that were posted to permit this mess and use the bond proceeds to force filter the water prior to discharge
     
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  2. littlebluelw

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    Manatee Co voted for deep well injection after some treatment of the water. Not entirely sure how I feel about that but based on the geology it’s feasible and likely not to impact the Floridan.
     
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  3. G8trGr8t

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    so why hasn't the volume been dropping? are they still in permitting or well development?
     
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    DEPNews@FloridaDEP.gov[/paste:font]
    Piney Point Update - April 7, 2021
    The Florida Department of Environmental Protection (DEP) tasked two innovative technology companies to initiate nutrient reduction and removal treatments from water on-site prior to discharging to Port Manatee. DEP continues to work with its partners to implement solutions in the waterways surrounding Piney Point to combat potential harmful algal blooms.

    Key status updates and response activities:

    • Approximately 258 million gallons remain in the NGS-South compartment.
    • More than 38 million gallons per day are being removed from the NGS-South compartment through pumps and other water management activities.
    • Controlled discharges of mixed saltwater from NGS-South compartment to Port Manatee are ongoing to reduce the water volume and pressure, and stabilize the system. To date, approximately 173 million gallons have been discharged to the port.
    • The department is working to repair the one identified area where there is concentrated seepage from the east wall of the NGS-South compartment. The flow of the seepage has reduced and remains contained onsite in the facility’s lined stormwater management system.
    • DEP’s interactive water quality dashboard details sampling locations and corresponding results to evaluate any environmental impacts to Tampa Bay from the Piney Point discharges. The most recent results show sampling locations in Tampa Bay are attaining marine water quality standards; however, sampling from areas surrounding the active discharge point in Port Manatee shows elevated levels of phosphorus.
    • Results will continue to be posted as soon as they are available.
    • Yesterday, Manatee County Emergency Management reopened U.S. Highway 41 to traffic and lifted the local evacuation order enabling local residents and businesses to return home safely.
    Residents can find the latest information on the status of the site and response activities at ProtectingFloridaTogether.gov/PineyPointUpdate.

    For information on public safety and evacuation guidance in this area, please visit MyManatee.org.

    About the Florida Department of Environmental Protection
    The Florida Department of Environmental Protection is the state’s principal environmental agency, created to protect, conserve and manage Florida’s environment and natural resources. The department enforces federal and state environmental laws, protects Florida’s air and water quality, cleans up pollution, regulates solid waste management, promotes pollution prevention and acquires environmentally sensitive lands for preservation. The agency also maintains a statewide system of parks, trails and aquatic preserves. Visit the department’s website at FloridaDEP.gov.

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  5. surfin_bird

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    My favorite quote definitely applies to this little "accident": "Only when the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught will we realize that we can not eat money". Anyone remember the fish canneries in central Florida? There were so many fish, you had commercial fresh water fishing and canning in Orlando. I have pictures of my grandfather next to a rack of 50+ bass, bream, and other fish that he and a buddy caught during a morning fishing trip on the St Johns back in the mid 1960s. Two of the things that really helped destroy Florida's environment were the invention of air conditioning and Walt Disney. It used to be that people came to Florida for the outdoor beauty and fishing and now they come to see a plastic-headed mouse. WTF
     
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  6. Gatorhead

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    Check out "OFF-SHORE" fishing pic's (from the Dock) from the 50-'s and 60's.
    Now compare current "Dock" fish pics.

    It will blow your mind!
    2x the fish, 3x the size back in the day....................but the Sugar Industry knows whats best for the fisheries - Right?? LMFAO
     
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  7. surfin_bird

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    I am just glad I was able to bring my son back to Florida ten years ago to go fishing the flats off Crystal River. He didn't believe my stories about fishing, until that trip. Also saw dolphins, manatees and Weeki Wachee Spring mermaids.
     
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  8. Gator515151

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    When the last Manatee dies will they let me drive my boat fast again?
     
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  9. surfin_bird

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    Pretty sick comment. If you don't have empathy for animals you might be a serial killer (~joking/maybe). Something tells me you already speed across the waterways. I am saddened by all unnecessary loss of life, whether a critter or a human. I recall a bike ride in Mississippi and the large number of dead turtles along the side of a country road. The turtles were coming out of hibernation in the spring and were wiped out by autos/trucks. It was a sad loss of life. The Atlantic Right whale/calf that were run over and killed outside Port Augustine was such a waste. The lack of empathy with wild animals is one of the reasons so many are becoming extinct today. In the Judean/Christian bible, God gave us dominion over animals, but I don't think it meant to destroy all of them.
     
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  10. surfin_bird

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    Back to the subject, this dam/embankment failure reminds me of the Oroville Dam failure several years ago. The geologists identified problems with the main spillway and emergency spillway which the WRC engineers/state ignored. Another oops moment. Deferred maintenance. I guess as long as the public pays for the repairs after the catastrophe, it's all good.
     
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  11. philnotfil

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    Privatize the profits, socialize the losses.
     
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  12. G8trGr8t

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    Serious over fishing by the commercial fishing industry played a bigvrole in stock depletions. Still do. Even where lax rules exist, enforcement is spotty, and that is across the commercial fishing industry from Gulf of Mexico to gulf of alaska
     
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  13. G8trGr8t

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    Snook bite is hot in Chokoloskee right now if you want another memorable trip
     
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    Piney Point Update - April 8, 2021
    Within the past 24 hours, DEP has reduced discharge flow to Port Manatee by more than 90%. Teams are now deploying nutrient reduction and removal treatments of the water on-site to address any required discharges in the future. This will significantly reduce nutrient loading to Port Manatee and help minimize water quality impacts.

    Yesterday, DEP deployed diving companies and submersible cameras in the NGS-South compartment and identified a seam separation on the east wall of the compartment. DEP and contracted crews continue to work around the clock to implement necessary repairs to the liner to contain the flow. Field operations teams are actively assessing the remainder of the system to continue stabilization and water treatment efforts. These efforts have enabled DEP to move forward with these important steps to reduce the current discharge volume of untreated water and ensure future discharges are pre-treated.

    DEP continues to work with its partners to implement solutions in the waterways surrounding Piney Point to combat potential harmful algal blooms and continues sampling the water quality network in this area daily.

    Key status updates and response activities:

    • The reduced rate of discharge to Port Manatee is now estimated to be less than 5 million gallons per day.
    • Approximately 232 million gallons remain in the NGS-South compartment.
    • To date, approximately 202 million gallons have been discharged to the port.
    • DEP tasked two innovative technology companies to initiate nutrient reduction and removal treatments from water on-site prior to discharging to Port Manatee.
    • DEP is working to repair the one identified area where there is concentrated seepage from the east wall of the NGS-South compartment. The flow of the seepage has reduced and remains contained onsite in the facility’s lined stormwater management system.
    • DEP’s interactive water quality dashboard details sampling locations and corresponding results to evaluate any environmental impacts to Tampa Bay from the Piney Point discharges. Results will continue to be posted as soon as they are available.
    • Manatee County Emergency Management reopened U.S. Highway 41 and Buckeye Road to traffic and lifted the local evacuation order enabling local residents and businesses to return home safely.
    Residents can find the latest information on the status of the site and response activities at ProtectingFloridaTogether.gov/PineyPointUpdate.

    About the Florida Department of Environmental Protection
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  15. gtr2x

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    Yep, taxpayers pay for the cleanup. Polluter is bankrupt.
     
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  16. philnotfil

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    The polluting company is bankrupt, the polluting executives all walked away with big bonuses.
     
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  17. G8R92

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    Lot of blame to go around.

    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/environment/article250448056.html
     
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    Heck, bankrupting your company and walking away with millions is good work if you can get it. Have you ever seen that before Jake? (BOA and Countrywide for example)
     
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  19. Gatorhead

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    Such a good "eatin" fish.................. try in brown bag "papalet"......yum
     
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    The new "American Way"
     
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