Well I will let other folks talk about White's short comings. I was making the point that Hamilton is doing LESS with better teams honestly. Both of them went to the elite 8. That is as far as they've gone. Hamilton has lost in the sweet 16 the other years most recently while White has lost in the round of 32. Sure there is a slight difference but not that much in the grand scheme of things. That was the point I am proving.