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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by busigator96, Jun 14, 2018.

  1. busigator96

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  2. finorman

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    It’s heartbreaking these people have to move, but I don’t disagree with the policy. Nature is a force that doesn’t care who is in it’s path.

    We shouldn’t have to rebuild areas and put lives at risk when we know the area is prone to flooding.
     
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  3. 96Gatorcise

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    Why does the govt have to flip the bill?

    Tell the people what's going on, give them them choice to leave or stay.
     
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  4. wgbgator

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    Probably so they actually leave.
     
  5. wgbgator

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    This is only going to get worse too. Climate change is real. In a few decades, this might be a Florida story.
     
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  6. 96Gatorcise

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    Who cares if they leave?

    They have been told the govt's position on the area. They can leave or stay. Stay at your own peril.
     
  7. wgbgator

    wgbgator Very Stable Genius Premium Member

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    I mean, why have mandatory evacuations during a hurricane, right? Why have buildings condemned if people still want to live in them? C'mon.
     
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    If everyone was honest, they’d speak the real truth here-New Orleans is most likely a city that never should have been built where it was. But we love our coastal real estate developnent I’m the US. Horrible fundamentals compounded by antiquated and crumbling infrastructure. Katrina wasn’t the worst that could happen, just the most recent warning of how bad it could really get if the wheels came off.

    Could be saying the same thing about Miami Beach one day, except with the word “over” preceding the word built.

    Hopefully Miami B is more out in front of the problem. Dan Gelber was my law school classmate at UF and I know he’s focused on the structural challenges Miami B faces, and certainly has access to more financial resources than NoLa did and does.
     
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  9. 96Gatorcise

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    Why?
    I firm believer in making personal decisions.

    It's not the govt's job to save me just inform me.

    As for hurricanes. I always thought the official policy of govt should be... You have been warned, we will not come for you.
    One man's condemned house is another man's place out of the cold.
     
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  11. homer

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    It’s been real since the earth was created.

    There’s nothing we can do about it. (See recent volcanic activity)
     
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  12. wgbgator

    wgbgator Very Stable Genius Premium Member

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    Why? The main reason is that most people don't want to live in your libertarian hellscape. Whats the point of even having a government if its not going to do those things?
     
  13. wgbgator

    wgbgator Very Stable Genius Premium Member

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    As human activity has impacted and accelerated whatever natural trends may exist, we certainly can do some things about it. But there aren't any quick fixes.
     
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  14. 96Gatorcise

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    there are plenty of things govt can do, being responsible for my personal life and financial decisions. Shouldn't be one of them.
     
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  15. 96Gatorcise

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    BTW thank you. You may be the first to acknowledge that I do not hold any firm grip on being left or right.:D:D:devil::)
     
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  16. madgator

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    To ensure property rights and provide for a common defense
     
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  17. wgbgator

    wgbgator Very Stable Genius Premium Member

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    The property rights thing is another good explanation as to why the government should compensate people that must be relocated. And "common defense" would seem to overlap with citizen safety.
     
  18. madgator

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    No it isn't

    If you buy land that is an area that is known to be sinking or subject to flooding or erosion. Then you assume the risk that comes with it.

    People have known for well over a 100 years (way before man made climate change was devised) that the Mississippi river delta is vulnerable land.

    Ensuring property right by enforcing a firm, consistent and unbiased rule of law
     
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  19. 96Gatorcise

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    I disagree.

    The govt should be saying, we no longer find the area viable to provide services to, so we will no longer collect fees and taxes in your area. Feel free to leave or stay.

    The idea of cancelling their homestead exemptions but still collecting the higher tax is infuriating and is nothing but theft.
     
  20. Claygator

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    Actually, the French Quarter and other historic parts of New Orleans fared quite well in Katrina. Our ancestors had a lot of sense about flooding.

    My ancestors in Florida in the early 1800's didn't build their homes where they could flood, because their was no insurance to reimburse them if it did. Federal Flood insurance created a monster; a ticking financial time bomb, as I see it.
     
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