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LBs and Bucks

Discussion in 'Awesome Recruiting' started by themistocles, May 14, 2018.

  1. themistocles

    themistocles VIP Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Temple Terrace, FL
    I would like to make a point about LBs/Bucks.

    Right now, on the Roster, there are 9 LBs all or almost all of whom are competing for time, and 4 kids who can play Buck, with 1 more LB (Reese) and 1 more Buck (Chatfield) showing up for Summer B.

    This is the first time I can remember the Gators having more than 4 or at most 5 Scholarship LBs on the team, and that fact, combined with injuries to key LBs has been a major reason for late season die offs and especially 2nd half die offs against FSU particularly, of the last 6 or 7 Gator teams.

    Depth is vital for consistent play throughout a brutal SEC schedule, and this severe lack at LB has been very damaging through the Muschamp and Mac years.

    There is one BIG Issue with the current Roster, however, Almost all of the Bucks are Jrs or Srs meaning that this year, the Gators need to recruit a minimum of 2 and consistently 1 or 2 each year. I guess that Lang could theoretically play there, although there will likely also be a shortage of TEs next year.

    At least this year, a walk-on won't be playing as the #2 backup in every game at LB.
  2. StrangeGator

    StrangeGator GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 3, 2007
    I think Lang is very likely to play defense and is exactly the kind of physical specimen we need there. As long as we sign two TEs this next cycle, we'll be good at that position. Keon Zipperer looks to be in the bag and it appears we're looking at some bigger, taller guys to go along with him. Keon is more the H-back type.

    We definitely need a long athletic guy for the edge. Reese will need a year to gain enough weight to compete. I have a good feeling about Chatfield. Would like to get two or three in the '19 class. Not seeing much interest from the top in-state OLBs or weak side DEs. But of course it's early.
    • Agree Agree x 1
  3. theghost

    theghost GC Hall of Fame

    Aug 14, 2011
    DC area
    Good inputs Strange. Agree w/ your bolded part - and it's discouraging. The DL/LB/OL recruiting needs to pick up asap. We're going to be 'settling' on the kids we do get at this point (i.e. we aren't landing our the top of our board kids).
  4. themistocles

    themistocles VIP Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Temple Terrace, FL
    Yes, Strange & Ghost. It has been somewhat disappointing regarding who has jumped on the bandwagon so far. They are good, but not likely to be Great, and there are too few of them. That was the most disappointing thing about the Final Week's recruiting, a lack of any gets from the several DT/DE/LB kids being sought, other than two really good ones in Langham and Chatfield. Apparently. several choose elsewhere when they were considered good possibilities.

    It may be nothing more than the $$Bagman, unfortunately.


    Apr 8, 2007
    We were in those kids very late in the process. Geography plays a role. Relationships play a role as welll. Give our coaches time and they will do great. December coaching hire for a Feb NSD is tough sledding. Like the kids we brought in and think next year will be better when all is said and done
  6. themistocles

    themistocles VIP Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Temple Terrace, FL
    Such an interest comment on Human Nature is that ending comment - Said and Done.

    This tells us just how vital Gossip, Stories, Tales, Legends, Epics, Archetypes, etc. are to humans. In fact, it's the DONE that matters, but we, as humans, are equally interested in the SAID. After all, look at UCF last year.
  7. themistocles

    themistocles VIP Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Temple Terrace, FL
    Regarding 1st year coaching rankings, the following gives 24/7's recruiting rankings for some Head Coaches of Interest. Urban Meyer was first at UTAH in 2003, by the way, that year, The Zooker had the #1 ranked class, with 6 5*, 8 4* and, as usual 12 3*.

    The data below supports the idea that the first year is a tough roe to hoe, with 2 exceptions. (1) Meyer at OSU, following his 2 NCs at UF, was 5th with 2 5* and 14 4*; AND, STRANGELY and WEIRDLY - Smart at Georgia, with no proof at all behind him managed the 6th rated class in 2016, with 3 5*. It seems pretty clear that he learned well from Saban just how vital the $$ Bagman is for this process. Otherwise, it's almost always a pretty tough row to hoe. By the way, in 2018, Mullen outdid both Kelly and Frosh

    A few Relevant First Year recruiting classes:
    Utah, 2003, 75th, 7 3*
    UF, 2005 - 12 - 7 4*, 10 3*
    OSU, 2012 - 5th - 5* 2, 4* 14, 3* 9
    Kirby Smart
    Georgia 2016 - 6th - 5* 3, 4* 12, 3* 11
    Michigan 2015 - 37th - 4* 6, 3* 8 - the main reason this was so low was a mere 14 recruits
    Nebraska 2018 - 22nd - 4* 6, 3* 18
    UCLA 2018 - 18th - 4* 10, 3* 18
    UF 2018 - 14th - 4* 12, 3* 7