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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by tampagtr, Jun 13, 2024.

  1. tampagtr

    tampagtr VIP Member

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    So this issue does not go away. Even after the Alabama Supreme Court order got quickly reversed legislatively and every Republican elected official distanced themselves, at least rhetorically, and emphatically proclaimed that there would never be any limitations on IVF availability, not so fast. Senate Republicans have refused to sign on, calling supporting guarantees of IVF an attack on religious liberty (don't try to make that position make sense).



    Now the Southern Baptist Convention, which seems to have the ability to set national policy regardless of how unpopular that policy might be with the public or whether it is remotely constitutional, has come out against IVF.

     
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  2. tampagtr

    tampagtr VIP Member

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  3. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    It's not something I thought would be an issue. But the opposition to surrogacy surprised me, too.

    Why the Southern Baptists’ vote opposing IVF could change national politics


    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/06/12/ivf-southern-baptist-convention-evangelical-00162994
     
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  4. sierragator

    sierragator GC Hall of Fame

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    Go for it GOP, it will make you more popular than ever.
     
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  5. tampagtr

    tampagtr VIP Member

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    Popularity is only relevant in a democracy
     
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  6. GatorNorth

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    Just when you thought the car couldn’t drive in reverse any faster, the GOP finds a way.
     
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  7. tampagtr

    tampagtr VIP Member

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    Momentum

     
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  8. Emmitto

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    They aren’t after IVF or birth control at all. That’s why it is so imperative to NOT protect that stuff. Because totes no R threat at all!
     
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  9. OklahomaGator

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  11. rivergator

    rivergator Too Hot Mod Moderator VIP Member

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    https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/13/politics/senate-ivf-bill-vote/index.html
     
  12. jhenderson251

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    I saw somewhere that the SBC also just barely avoided banning female pastors.
     
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  14. wgbgator

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    Yeah, there's that. And why would anyone put their faith in one of the weakest, undisciplined and unprincipled politicians in memory to protect IVF or basically anything.
     
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  15. tampagtr

    tampagtr VIP Member

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    I think they did ban them. They disfellowshipped an Arlington Church for having a female preacher.

    Of course, we Catholics can hardly condemn for that exclusionary practice, although I think it’s wrong in both, which is part of why Episcopalianism may be in my future, certainly already would if I lived on the Upper West Side. Hard to understand the necessity of male genitalia to preach
     
  16. VAg8r1

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    At one time Trump was pro-choice on the abortion issue. Before he became a politician his position was that although he personally opposed abortion he didn't think that government should be involved in an otherwise personal decision. That didn't stop him from packing the Supreme Court with justices willing to overturn Roe v. Wade. If a Republican majority Congress passed a "life begins at conception" law which would have the indirect effect of banning IVF since IVF frequently results in the disposal of frozen embryos that are no longer needed Trump would sign it.
     
  17. tampagtr

    tampagtr VIP Member

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    He has no intention of protecting anything but himself.
     
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  18. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

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    Yup. If banning IVF kept him out of jail or even if he just got a fancy sash to wear that said "World's Greatest President", he'd ban it in a hot minute.
     
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  19. philnotfil

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    Didn't they spend the last few months assuring everyone that IVF would be protected?
     
  20. enviroGator

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    This could really help flip NC. Abortion is the #1 issue they are pushing here in NC against the pig of human the pubs are putting up for Gov. NC has gerrymandered the crap out of the state but they can't gerrymander the Pres or Gov races.
     
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