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Lake 0 ready to Fuel Red Tide Assault

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, May 14, 2021.

  1. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    Big cattle, big sugar, legacy pollution, poor water management guidelines, farmers flooding STA's, and an endangered bird not seen in years is setting the stage for the next big bloom of red tide. The blue algae bloom in lake O is now over 300 square miles and the lake is too high for this time of year due to ACOE not releasing water south to protect the potential breeding grounds of an endangered bird nobody has seen in years or previously constructed STA's intended to accept runoff from the lake are full of water that came directly from farm fields so farm fields wouldn't flood. Now we have this tremendous cesspool of polluted water that needs to be released and they are going to dump it to the east and west coasts where native patch blooms of red tide eagerly await the nutrient rich water in the salt water and the blue green algae awaits the nutrient boost in the brackish and freshwater systems downstream of Lake 0.

    The more things change, the more they stay the same...maybe another study will help..smdh..pissed...

    'Impending disaster.' Worsening algae bloom on Lake Okeechobee threatens coasts again (msn.com)

    Elsewhere on the lake, the algae wasn't as chunky, but satellite photos were just as shocking: NOAA monitoring images on Wednesday showed nearly two thirds of the lake, or 500 square miles, were covered with blue-green algae, the potentially toxic stuff that has fouled rivers and canals in the west and east coasts of Florida in past years, killing fish and scaring tourists away. Green streaks of algae are already visible moving down from the Moore Haven lock on the Caloosahatchee River, which has received Lake Okeechobee water releases in recent weeks to lower lake levels.

    Is South Florida in for another summer of slime? The answer has a lot to do with how much water will be flushed from the lake to Florida's west and east coasts. Already, Lake Okeechobee is at 13.6 feet, 2.5 feet higher than what it was at this time last year. Forecasters are predicting a "well above average" hurricane season this year.

    "This is an impending disaster," said John Cassani, of Calusa Waterkeeper. He and other activists are asking Gov. Ron DeSantis to declare a state of emergency to protect the Caloosahatchee from harmful lake discharges as the rainy season approaches and the need to lower water levels will be unavoidable. "Think of the lake as a giant cesspool being flushed into the Caloosahatchee every day with no end in sight. It's a catastrophic situation."'
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    "Typically, we don't see this much algal coverage on the lake until June or July, when we're have the longest day lengths," and sunlight drives the photosynthesis that makes algae grow and reproduce, he said.
     
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  2. G8trGr8t

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    Makes this release a month ago comical if not so far off target with such bad ramifications. Turtle nesting season starting up. Red tide should be in full force when the hatchlings emerge. Could lose an entire year worth of hatchlings. Saving the nesting birds, killing everything else that swims and squashing coastal property values while making those within breathing distance of the blooms sick. brilliant. Having walked the beaches of upper captiva and seen goliath grouper, stingrays, arpon, sharks etc all dead and rotting on the beach while I hacked away with a dry cough from red tide this all makes me fighting mad to see it getting ready to happen again. Fishing ahs been catch and release since 2018 and now we are on the precipice of another disastrous red tide bloom

    Corps stops releases from lake to St. Lucie River | South Central Florida Life

    Posted Friday, April 9, 2021 1:51 pm
    “We are happy the lake is getting lower. We anticipate still somewhere in the 13 to 13.5 ft range when the rainy season starts,” said Kelly. The corps may use HAB deviations to release water later in the year – if there are no HABs on the lake – to prevent the need for releases in the fall
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    The advanced releases began in February as part of a planned deviation approved in September 2020 to reduce the risk of lake releases when harmful algal blooms are more likely to be present this summer. The deviation released about 91,000 more acre feet of water from the lake than would have normally been released under the Lake Okeechobee Regulation Schedule (LORS).

    Use of the deviation was limited by a requirement to maintain a recession rate of no more than 0.5 feet per month to avoid harm to nesting birds.
     
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  3. tampagtr

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    I was texting with my friend the other day who I've talked about before. He has actually been working on this project
     
  4. G8trGr8t

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    whatever he is doing isn't working. Until the legislature tackles the ag and cattle exemptions nothing is going to fix it. They just keep adding to the legacy pollution that is covering the bottom of Lake O. that prevents exfiltration and feeds the blooms when the water gets stirred up from wind. Once the point sources are identified and remediated, then they need to clean up Lake O. No amount of offsite work is going to remove all that nitrogen, phosphorous that is stored in the muck layer that now covers what was once a sandy bottom of Lake O
     
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  5. citygator

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    Florida’s natural environment is its draw. If not protected it’s just a humid hell hole of strip malls with old people. Throw in a beautiful beach and protected wildlife nature and it’s a paradise.
     
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  6. gator_lawyer

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    Don't worry, I'm sure the Republican-dominated government just needs a little more time to fix this issue.
     
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  7. tampagtr

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    He's working on testing to assess. Think that will work
     
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    Props to having a title that makes no sense until you click into it then makes total sense.
     
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  9. Gatorhead

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    CREATE a aquatic zoo for the Manatee's, they will be extinct in the wild soon!
    OUTSTANDING accomplishment by our GOP legislators!

    Save the sugar industry! Destroy Florida's wetlands and offshore ecology!
    Swim in the filthy red tide stink!!

    Hail CAPITALISM!!!!
     
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  10. dadx4

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    Sooooo are you a socialist or communist? Name one country where communism and socialism worked.
     
  11. dadx4

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    I have a home in Sarasota and the red tide is beyond awful. Do you have any ideas on how to fix this problem?
     
  12. Gatorhead

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    Very much off topic

    No dad, just a native son of Florida that thinks the State Gov't should protect it's people, land and environment.

    Something you clearly DON"T care about, enjoy your "RED - TIDE" beach trips!!
    SMDH
     
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  13. Gatorhead

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    Yes,

    Vote DEMOCRAT
     
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  14. G8trGr8t

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    this problem has been growing for 40 years under dem and pub leadership
     
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  15. G8trGr8t

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    point source remote testing units should have been deployed at all major discharge points to the Kissimmee River basin a decade ago and real world data used to set allowable discharge limits and forced farmers and ranchers to do the same water quality treatment that development has to do. It is step 1 to any empirical based solution. What will happen is they will argue forever about where to put testing units, whether the pollution source was on or off of the property discharging the water, and then try and grandfather in the existing pollution if they ever do get an actual data.
     
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    After 20+ years of Republican leadership, it is time to try something new.
     
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  17. G8trGr8t

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    both parties pander to big ag and big cattle. make it partisan, divide the opposition, conquer them. congratulations on helping them win.
     
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  18. tampagtr

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    Technically, they are working to design a system to monitor water quality. I am not otherwise qualified to discuss but I do trust my friend
     
  19. gatorknights

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    The watershed that feeds Lake O includes the Kissimmee River basin and goes through a lot of swamps and farms. No telling how much phosphates have been pouring into it over the decades. And the crap that pollutes those lakes love phosphates. If they shut off the spigot tomorrow, it still might take generations to flush it all out. I wonder if Lake Apopka is still as nasty as it was when I lived nearby.
     
  20. G8trGr8t

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    ACOE and DEP are under federal control and have a big say in the issue. what are they doing to cure the disease rather than treat the symptoms? Nothing, nada. throwing billions at expensive band aids trying to stop the patient from bleeding while big ag and big cattle continue to pump the patient full of blood thinners
     
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