Kilmar Abrego Garcia being returned to US

Well, those things aren't even necessarily true. But it must be nice to just assume to be true anything negative about people you dislike - it's certainly convenient.

But you're right - those are certainly three negative qualities or actions, or negative labels of what someone could do or be. I can certainly see how you would strongly avoid anyone who "tagged all three of those bases concurrently."

Just for the sake of argument, how would you feel about someone who "tagged the three bases" of being a convicted felon, an adjudicated sexual assaulter, and had also been accused of rape and assault by his wife?

 

When did I say I feel sorry for him for being a Maryland dad? Maybe all these things are true, but you’re making a lot of assumptions here, about me and Kilmar. Why not just wait for a trial before condemning him as guilty? Or ask me for my views before condemning them?

 

^ Illegal immigrant. She illegally worked while on a tourist visa. She has to go.

 

If he's a gang banger, when was he charged and convicted? If he's a wife beater, same question, where are the charges and convictions? At least you can point to one charge if human trafficking, but in our society, people are innocent until proven guilty. And in the eyes of the law, Abrego Garcia is still an innocent man with 34 less felony convictions than our President.

 

So let's address the "Gang banger" part of this. What is your reaction to the judge's ruling that the government's evidence of gang involvement is both double hearsay and not convincing even if it weren't double hearsay? Seems like such a factual statement would come with a stronger factual foundation than weak double hearsay evidence.

 

and similar question on 'wife beater'...his wife never accused him of that...except once evidence came out she changed her tune

 

Not sure what the question is.

 

Abrego Garcia's wife begged judge for protection order in 2020 audio | Fox News Video

 

The thing about due process is it only works if it is applied evenly. We can't just pick a group of people and decide they don't get due process. Then have them tried in the court of public opinion based on hyper partisan news reporting to form an opinion that breaks up a family and sends a person to a contracted Venezuelan prison. That is terrible precedent.
If this person happens to be all the things the partisan news reported, I think the majority of people on the left agree he should punished based on the current laws.

 

That was in 2020, this statement from Abrego Garcia's wife is much more recent.

In an email to Newsweek on Thursday, Vasquez Sura wrote: "After the trauma of his time in ICE detention and the struggles we faced during the pandemic, I sought a temporary protective order, but through counseling and faith, Kilmar and I healed, reunited as a stronger couple, and now our family needs him home."​

Kilmar Abrego Garcia's wife responds to second abuse report

If Abrego Garcia is to be held responsible for a situation that occurred years ago so should Pete Hegseth.
Pete Hegseth's former sister-in-law alleges in affidavit he was abusive to second wife
Pete Hegseth threatened, terrified his ex-wife, sister-in-law alleges
There is also a reason why Hegseth's ex-wife has refused to address the issue.
lHegseth’s Ex-Wife Is Bound by a Nondisparagement Clause
Samantha Hegseth is contractually obligated not to speak ill of him, according to the terms of their divorce. A former sister-in-law has said Pete Hegseth was threatening and abusive toward Samantha Hegseth.

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Once a wife beater always a wife beater. If you have that mean streak in you it just doesn't go away that easily.

 

So you are in effect saying that applies to Pete Hegseth as well?

 

I would add that the Prince Georges County police officer who labeled Abrego Garcia as a gang member was later terminated for misconduct in another case, not exactly a credible source and the allegation that he was involved in human trafficking is based on traffic stop in Tennessee in 2022. Seems that the evidence was strong and credible he would have been charged back then.