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Kiffen revenge move. Gunning for Saban's staff.

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by Bryan85, Dec 12, 2019.

  1. Bryan85

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  2. cpgator

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    Yeah...jump off Saban's staff to join Kiffen who will probably be gone in three years. That's a good career move.
     
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  3. atlantagator86

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    Yeah, I'm not sure I see what would draw anybody to go to Ole Miss from Bama to work with Kiffen over Saban.
     
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  4. gatrfanzz

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    I think it would be a good move for an asst. I don't think saban is going to be coaching bama for three more years. He looks tired and I think he doesn't have anything more to prove.
     
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  5. G8tr69

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    Kiffin loves to stir it up! :eek::p
     
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  6. mkfgator

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    This is going to get fun. Kiffen has no ethics, and Saban just finished talking about "poaching" by assistants. Besides his arrogance, Kiffen's flaw is he thinks he's smarter than what he really is. Saban will get Kiffen when he least suspects it. Nick is Don Corleone and Kiffen is Tatagglia, a pimp. I can almost hear Nick now: " Leave the gun. Grab the Dreamland ribs."
     
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  7. your_perfect_enemy

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    Ah the best reason to hire someone, spite.

    I get wanting Cochran, but offering an on field position, what position would he even know how to coach?
     
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  9. GatorNavy

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    I can't blame Kiffin for trying.
     
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  10. tilly

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    Not sure that ethics is in play though. EVERY new coach takes guys from other staffs. It is just the way it works.
    Saban took Kirby from UGA when he was the Dolphin's coach.

    Saban too Muschamp from Valdosta State.

    It's just the way it works.

    Saban just thinks he is the only ethical one.
     
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  11. spike718

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    Yeah, and I imagine Saban revenge will be drubbing ole miss and Kiffin by 50 every year to expedite his firing.
     
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  12. grant1

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    I think Saban's complaint is when someone on his staff is promoted to HC and then tries to pilfer Saban's staff. I can see his point there, but if the pilfering results in a promotion, all bets are off.
     
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  13. DieAGator

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    Only with a contract that leaves you much better than staying. If I knew in three years I would have an additional $600k or more invested. Thant would give me the chance to see if I could translate some of the Bama process was into a different program. I could assume some responsibility and grow perhaps. I would draft and then mail a letter to myself- now post marked- to be opened by my next boss telling exactly why I left Alabama for that particular job. Haha.
     
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  14. tigator2019

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    In my head--- UF
    Assistants from one school may not translate into success elsewhere (obviously)
     
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    "it will be funny"
     
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  16. here-we-go-gators

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    He would like one more national championship to beat the Bear outright. Easier said than done.

    It will get harder and harder for Saban in recruiting. With other schools getting closer in player facilities it will be harder for him to out talent people. UF's combo of closer location to top South Florida talent and UF's upcoming $85 million football training facilties and it will get harder for Saban to get top Florida talent which has been his ace in the hole.

    Plus he now has to recruit against strengthened LSU,Clemson and Georgia in recruit areas he used to get the best players from.

    Saban's division has Texas A&M ,which has more money than Bama, and a stronger LSU to deal with now.

    Saban is like Spurrier when he increased expectations. Will get frustrating for Saban.

    Not making the playoff this year was not a good sign for Saban.
     
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  17. tafc_5_1981

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    Me either. If he causes Saban any grief I am ok with it.
     
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  18. tafc_5_1981

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    Kiffen has a history with Shrimp Boat Captain too.
     
  19. DBCooper

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    Kiffin isn’t particular about who he pisses off. He got under Urban’s skin while at UT but then brought his team to Gainesville and coached to lose only by a couple scores instead of coaching to win. He then acted as if he had won.
     
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  20. beemerthegator

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    The thing with Cochran is he could decide on a change of scenery -- and more money and an upgraded title doesn't hurt -- and it doesn't matter if Kiffen gets fired in 3 years. Lots of teams would be lining up to hire Cochran if it didn't work out.

    The strength coach position isn't like a d-coordinator or o-coordinator position where guys can easily fall out of favor as preferred offensive or defensive schemes change over time and/or depending on how they perform at a particular job. Once someone has established themselves as well as Cochran and some of the other well known, successful strength coaches they aren't likely to fall out of favor.

    I read a linked article which listed the strength coaches making over $500k and was surprised to see Iowa has the highest paid strength coach. Iowa hasn't made a whole lot of noise in the upper echelons of college football lately. I wasn't surprised, however, to see Mickey Mariotti and Rob Glass on that list.
     
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