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Discussion in 'Nuttin' but Net' started by tampajack1, Sep 3, 2021.

  1. GratefulGator

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    100% speculating, but Keyontae's incident looks more like a Long QT Interval rather than R on T syndrome:

    "Long QT syndrome (LQTS) is a heart rhythm condition that can potentially cause fast, chaotic heartbeats. These rapid heartbeats might trigger you to suddenly faint. Some people with the condition have seizures. In some severe cases, LQTS can cause sudden death.

    Some people are born with a genetic mutation that causes long QT syndrome (congenital long QT syndrome). Long QT syndrome may be caused by certain medications, mineral imbalances or medical conditions (acquired long QT syndrome)."

    Long QT syndrome - Symptoms and causes
     
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  2. gatordd

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    Other posters already mentioned it, but the liability is too great for UF to take the chance imo.
     
  3. GatorPlanet

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    Might be lupus.
     
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  4. antny1

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    Just curious why you think one over the other since R on T can cause lethal arrhythmias like vfib although I'm not familiar for certain if R on T can cause Vtach which could progress to Vfib

    Edit: I ask because R on T wouldn't leave any evidence of it would it? Thereby explaining why there hasnt been any diagnosis yet?
     
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  5. GratefulGator

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    Prolonged QT Interval is just a hunch. R on T would also check the boxes and could be a possibility.
     
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  6. wci347

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    There is too much at stake to clear him. If Johnson’s goal is to get to the NBA, he does not need Florida to get there.
     
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  7. GatorLurker

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    The last thing we need for anyone involved is another Hank Gathers type incident.
     
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  8. GatorPlanet

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    He should only be cleared if they can determine the problem and the severity and the fix with a very high degree of confidence.
     
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  9. wingtee

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    We denied big time recruits from entering recruits because of the damn math class , I’m sure we will do it here . Even if he passes the physical criterion exams
     
  10. wingtee

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    I’m sure he will be playing for Kentucky or Memphis soon
     
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  11. tim

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    I don’t imagine him going to another school. Figured his next step, if he’s going to play, would be a paid league or maybe G League.
     
  12. murphree_hall

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    This whole thing is dumb. The chance if him having a similar episode and actually dying from it on court are ridiculously low. You don’t see guys dropping like flies left and right in sports. Usually, anyone with a serious condition knows it when they are real young and never get as far as KJ did.
     
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  13. murphree_hall

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    With that, I maintain my very unscientific diagnosis that KJ suffered a brain injury as a result of hitting his head following a fainting spell. Before you start hitting the negative ratings, look at the quotation from his grandfather…

    Have we heard any official source state that he had a heart issue? I’ve only seen that from outside speculators. I don’t know… I don’t want him to put himself at risk, but I also don’t think taking away basketball from him is great either. For me, it’s not about whether he plays for us, it’s about letting the young man follow his dreams.

    @tilly @HallGator
     
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  14. tampajack1

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    Keyontae is going to make his own decision. My guess is that something with his heart/cardiac caused him to faint. His head didn’t hit the floor that hard. Go watch the video. His knees hit first and broke his fall. I had 2 similar falls resulting from an irregular heartbeat. Fortunately, both times I fell backwards and banged the back of my head, but not real hard. In my case, I was diagnosed with bradytachycardia. I had a cryo cardiac ablation to resolve the problem. Keyontae almost certainly has something more dangerous. There is no reason until it’s diagnosed to think that it would not happen again.
     
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  15. Claygator

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    I disagree with the assertions that an informed waiver would be invalid. And I don't get all the chatter about "criminal malfeasance". There's no crime there.

    Having said that, I would be shocked if UF let him play, absent some clearance by medical experts from outside. A negative outcome would get UF crucified.
     
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  16. murphree_hall

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    When that happened to you, did you immediately lose consciousness and then fall afterwards to like KJ did?
     
  17. missourigator

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    His Gator days are over but I wish hm well.
     
  18. tampajack1

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    First, I got dizzy and realized that I was going to fall. I tries to sit down on the floor (1st time), ground (2nd time). Both times I fell backwards and hit my head. I went through a full battery of tests. During the nuclear stress test,I was walking about as fast as I could on an inclined treadmill all wired up. I felt okay, but the cardiologist told me that at times I was going 6 seconds without a heartbeat. That surprised the hell out of me. The risk is that you fall and bang your head or otherwise harm yourself or that you get a stroke. The cryo-ablation that I got froze the exterior of each of my pulmonary veins and a spot on my left atrium. Scar tissue then develops to keep electricity from jumping through (or something like that). Neither of those 2 events occurred while I was playing ball or seriously exercising. These events are called syncopes. I also had presyncopes which for me were momentary feelings of light-headedness. Again, I never had any of these events while playing ball or exercising. I had the surgery on May 31, 2019. I have not had a single event since then, and I take no medication.
     
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  19. oragator1

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    Hank Gathers and Reggie Lewis both show what happens an issue and isn’t properly treated. But we’re KJs age or older, both had episodes and both chose to not properly treat them and keep playing. No chance he plays at UF again without a thorough understanding of what it was or wasn’t.
     
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  20. murphree_hall

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    I'm not disagreeing with you, but like I said, it's very rare.