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Kentucky Derby winner Medina Spirit tests positive for anti-inflammatory drug

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by Juggernautz, May 9, 2021.

  1. NitroSmoke

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    WOW! And at what I think was 12:1 that has to be a tough one on the books.
     
  2. Killer_Rabbits

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    Thinking the betting is parimutuel and the racetrack cannot lose.
     
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  4. ThomasD89

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    Not uncommon for topical antifungal product to contain both a fungicidal agent along with a corticosteroid. Lotrisone is a brand name human product that contains both clotrimazole and betamethasone. There may very well be a similar veterinary product.

    But, you would think the vet and/or trainers - whose job it is to keep the animal 'clean' would know that.

    It certainly could explain why the detected amount was so low - a picogram is 0.000000000001 gram. It could also explain why the product was never seen as a problem until now - maybe the older tests were simply not that sensitive and wouldn't detect levels consistent with topical use.

    Doesn't matter though. He screwed up.
     
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  5. Claygator

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    He didn't screw up; he just got caught. I'd like to see the solid proof that he used antifungal cream. The guy has had multiple banned substances problems with his horses, and always beats it. He plans on doing the same here.

    He's a cheater; which is why he wins so much.
     
  6. Gatorfred

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    Maybe the horse went to GNC
     
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  7. Skink

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    With Will Grier holding the reins
     
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  8. 62gator

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    Medina Spirit is the 9/5 favorite in a very weak Preakness field of 10.
     
  9. Claygator

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    I wonder if his fungus cleared up?
     
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  10. Skink

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    Or if he stopped making out with his groom
     
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  11. avgator2000

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    I say this thread needs a new name. How about Funky Cold Medina.
     
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  12. ThomasD89

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    Wouldn't matter. It's still a banned substance. Not sure which is worse, being known as a cheater, or being known as an idiot.

    Horse racing is the original NASCAR - they all cheat.
     
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    Skink, you left off the obligatory disclaimer, “not that there’s anything wrong with that”.. :D
     
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  14. NitroSmoke

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    "a picogram is 0.000000000001 gram"

    Thats a lot of zeros to the right of the decimal. How significant could an advantage like that really be?
     
  15. Skink

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    Uh....that’s like, a thousandth of a nanogram, right?

    Reminds me of a scene from Animal House. But then, lots of things remind me of scenes from Animal House...
     
  16. BLING

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    Junky horse!
     
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    That's just what was detected, the blood draw itself would have surely been just a few ml of blood. That doesn't mean the entire dose given to the horse was in picograms, just what was detected in the single sample.

    Supposedly the old testing standard was "anything over 10 picograms". If true then the "what difference does it make for performance" argument might work, plus then you would wonder about the precision of the testing from one sample to the next. But from what I've read, now it's simply a banned substance. So any detection at all constitutes cheating.