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Kasich Signs EO Requiring Farmers to Control Nutrient Runoff

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by G8trGr8t, Aug 13, 2018.

  1. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    Damn shame the primary voters weren't smart enough to pick him as the pub candidate. Even worse that we don't have a candidate in Florida governor race willing to commit to do the same or one in office willing to do it. Disagree with the taxpayers funding $36M to help the farmers. If it cost more to farm responsibly then the price of food should go up to cover it

    Breaking: Kasich signs Lake Erie executive order - Farm and Dairy

    “We’ve done a lot to ensure the health of Lake Erie, Ohio’s crown jewel, including investments of more $3 billion since 2011 to improve water quality in the lake and its watershed,” Kasich said, in a released statement. “But it’s clear that more aggressive action is needed, especially to reduce or eliminate the algae blooms that have marred the western basin for years. This executive order is intended to kick those efforts into overdrive.”

    Nutrient management requirements
    The order instructs the Ohio Soil and Water Conservation Commission to review the watersheds for the “distressed” designation, and for the Ohio Department of Natural Resources, EPA, and state agriculture department to recommend a rules package that “establishes nutrient management requirements for all agricultural nutrient sources.”

    The “distressed” designation could be removed only after the director of agriculture determines the “sustained recovery, restoration and mitigation of factors leading to the original designation.”

    After signing his executive order, Kasich also signed the Clean Lake 2020 Plan, which was unanimously approved by the Legislature and allocates $36 million for farm-related conservation measures intended to improve water quality.

    Kasich had hoped the Legislature would include language to declare watersheds in distress, but because no one would take up the measure, he decided on an executive order.
     
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  2. gator_lawyer

    gator_lawyer Premium Member

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    Why oh why did the GOP not put that man forward?
     
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  3. homer

    homer GC Legend

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    Looks like both sides are their own worst enemy?

    Hillary - Trump

    SMDH
     
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  4. MichiGator2002

    MichiGator2002 Premium Member

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    Because he's a pompous, supercilious clown whose vanity-run probably obstructed the only actual chance there was to nominate someone other than Trump? Remember, this guy was never closer to the nomination than like 3rd/4th place.
     
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  5. gator_lawyer

    gator_lawyer Premium Member

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    "[H]e's a pompous, supercilious clown whose vanity-run [for President]" describes somebody else. ;)

    He was also the best candidate of that group. He's a successful governor (especially for the fiscal conservatives) who has shown himself to be rather reasonable.
     
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  6. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    Would you have voted for him over Hillary?
     
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  7. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    Who besides Jeb or Kasich were remotely qualified? Sad to say that qualifications seem to no longer matter.

    Bigger issue to me is someone finally had the stones to go after pollution from big ag. WAY past time to make these mega farms clean up their act
     
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  8. gator_lawyer

    gator_lawyer Premium Member

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    I didn't vote for Hillary even when she was against Trump. But yes, I would have voted for Kasich. Would not have voted for Jeb or Cruz. Would have voted for Rubio (despite my belief that he's spineless).
     
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  9. Gatorrick22

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    Qualified to do what? Business as usual? Doing China's bidding... doing nothing about China's theft of American inventions/intellectual property? Yeah, neither of those two RINOs would have done a thing about China and we'd probably be at DEFCON 1 because of North Korea instead of working though a change in belligerence by NoKo.

    Stop voting for the same old crap and expecting a different outcome... Trump won because We The People have had enough of the Establishment Globalists in both Partys.
     
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  10. citygator

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    We the people screwed up. The answer to a bad doctor experience isn’t to go to a witch doctor. It’s finding a better real doctor. Trumps just a witch doctor. Worship him all you want. Just do it quickly cuz his time is about up.
     
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  11. AndyGator

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    LOL. You ever bothered to actually look and listen to Trump? :rolleyes:
     
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  12. OaktownGator

    OaktownGator Guardian of the GC Galaxy Moderator VIP Member

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    Kasich is boring as hell. That's his sin.

    He was easily the best candidate on either side, though.
     
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  13. G8trGr8t

    G8trGr8t Premium Member

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    I would respond that is our fault and why we end up with the politicians that we do. We elect entertainers and bs artists instead pf people that want to be practical and work together to solve problems. That is on the electorate and a big part of why we have the f'd up gubmnt that we do. Forget about their qualifications, what is their Q rating...
     
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  14. OaktownGator

    OaktownGator Guardian of the GC Galaxy Moderator VIP Member

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    Agree completely.

    And its particularly highlighted when somebody who engages in middle school name calling, nonstop deceit and appeals to bigots and racists, gets far more votes than the most qualified guy in the contest.

    And the Dems picked HRC over a much better man in Sanders.

    We got what we deserve. Unfortunately.

    Hope one day we deserve better.
     
  15. GatorBen

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    Bemoaning Kasich not getting the nomination on the Republican side is about like bemoaning Jim Webb not being the Democratic nominee.

    Kasich polls better with Democrats than he does Republicans, even in his own state (in both satisfaction polls and the “would like to see him run for president again” polls).

    The thing is, very few of those Democrats who like him would vote for him over a Democratic nominee. So it seems a little silly to bemoan the GOP not having nominated a candidate that they don’t particularly like (or agree with) because Democrats would like him more (but still not vote for him).
     
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  16. OaktownGator

    OaktownGator Guardian of the GC Galaxy Moderator VIP Member

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    Those polling numbers are reflective of a major problem with the electorate, IMO.

    What does the Pub party represent, when they don't like one of a small handful of people in either party who've ever balanced a budget? Or even tried to. He's a fiscal conservative and a practical politician.

    A lot of Pubs don't like him for the same reason a lot of Dems do... he doesn't insult Dems. Because he'd rather work with them to get things done.

    We need to stop thinking that working together is a bad thing. It's really not.
     
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  17. channingcrowderhungry

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    Bottom of a pint glass
    The problem is working together doesn't get you elected. Trump's entire platform was undoing the things Obama has done. And the next Democratic candidates platform will be solely that of undoing what Trump has done. It's a winning strategy
     
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  18. wgbgator

    wgbgator Very Stable Genius Premium Member

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    Geo-hell
    They did and he lost, bigly.
     
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  19. MichiGator2002

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    Personality goes along way, like with dogs or pigs. Besides, Kasich's schtick is to use his pompous sanctimony to explain why it's just unreasonable to expect nominally conservative politicians to govern conservatively. Trump, for his instinctive NY liberal failings and debatable trade instincts, has governed more conservatively than any President since Reagan, particularly on the regulatory side, and judicial nominations could have the downstream effects of literally saving the republic.

    But the genuine pathetic quality of Kasich is that he positioned himself as the last, best hope to stop Trump but he never was. He was ultimately barely closer to beating Trump for the nomination than Gilmentum, because Republican voters were tired of being talked down to by Republican politicians. If he actually wanted to stop Trump, he could have gotten out in February and backed Cruz, the only one that ever actually had a shot once actual primaries started, but he didn't, because Cruz was too danged literally conservative for Kasich, too.

    Kasich challenges Trump in 2020, he will have about a 65/35 shot to win Ohio. He will not win a single other primary.
     
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  20. wgbgator

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    Geo-hell
    The data says the voters perceived Trump as the most moderate GOP candidate in ages. I'd argue that people overlooked Trump's coarseness thinking he could shake things up and work with the opposition because he wasn't an ideological conservative like Kasich and the other Republicans. His actions once in office have more or less moved him to be perceived as a hardcore conservative now, so I don't think he can pull that trick again. The people that are ideological conservatives have mostly come around on Trump, with the few holdouts being some cosmopolitan conservatives who hate his boorishness, dishonesty and overall demeanor.