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Just How Rare are 5* Recruits?

Discussion in 'Awesome Recruiting' started by themistocles, Nov 26, 2018.

  1. ncg8or

    ncg8or GC Legend

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    Didn't Powell tear his ACL in the Spring Game and was lost for the year? Was never the same after...
     
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  2. Wanne15

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    Is Ivey getting drafted to the league as a bust?
     
  3. Wanne15

    Wanne15 GC Hall of Fame

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    Half the first round is 3*s every year. Hs evaluations are very dicey. Get our share of top 300 guys, do a good job of evaluating what we call stretches and coaching does a lot.
     
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  4. Gator715

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    Fair enough... on John Shaw... I knew he didn't make an impact for the Gators, so I assumed it was for football reasons...
     
  5. Gator715

    Gator715 GC Hall of Fame

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    Nope... potential... and LTs are a valuable position group...

    He has a high ceiling... Guys like TJ McCoy who'll have a better game than Ivey here and there... are limited physically...

    Ivey has the frame to be great... which is why it's so frustrating... him often times just being another guy on the line... with an excellent game here and there...
     
  6. Wanne15

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    Seems to have improved immensely as the year went on as did the rest of the line. I think coaching helped the entire line this year. They same guys that couldn’t block my grandma last year looked like a pretty good line this year. Busts don’t play in the Nfl period.
     
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  7. DoctorGator

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    This. Our coaches are not the greatest recruiters, but I think they are probably the best group of teachers that we have had on staff since I have been keeping up with Gator football (since 1966). The improvement of that OL, an absolute embarrassment last year, is a testament to Coach Hevesy .
     
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  8. jimmyc41

    jimmyc41 Freshman

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    This is a product of simple math, there are probably 5 times more 3 stars than 5 stars (I'm sure someone could do a simple fact check on this to find out exactly what it is). Find it very annoying when I hear someone stating that more 3 stars end up in NFL. Percentage of 5 stars that end up playing on Sunday is MUCH higher than that of lower star value.
     
  9. Wanne15

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    Sure but 40 5* sign every year in college and 4-6 pan out to be that 1st rd pick that everybody thinks they are. I’m sure the higher rated guys have a better chance to develope but develope is a big word.
     
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  10. UF67ee

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    Can someone list or point me to the 5*'s in Florida?
     
  11. ufhealthgator

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  12. DBCooper

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    IMO a large percentage of today’s 5-stars are maturing physically 1-2 years ahead of their fellow athletes. They are bigger, faster and stronger than others their age. When they get to the college level, they have already made their greatest gains and by the time they’re juniors and seniors some of their teammates have more than made up their initial physical advantages. For example Joey Ivie and Taven Bryan came in at 250-255 and both were weight room warriors that put on 45-50 pounds of good weight and climbed the depth chart every season. Martez Ivey and CeCe came in close to their current weights and in 4 seasons have progressed but not nearly as much.

    What I can’t explain is how Bama’s supplements allow their 5-stars to dominate in college but not the NFL where the tests are more strictly administered.
     
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  13. StrangeGator

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    I believe you're right. Was a shame. He's one of the best athletes ever to sign an LOI to UF.
     
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  14. StrangeGator

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    We don't yet know if they are the greatest recruiters. We need to see what they can do recruiting for an elite program. Mullen, Gonzalez and Hevesy helped bring in some of the best classes in UF history. I expect them to be back at that level for the next cycle.
     
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  15. DoctorGator

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    I certainly hope you are right. If they can recruit, they are "Super Staff" because almost every single position is better this year, with mostly the same guys playing. These guys can, as Dick Vitale likes to say "can flat-out coach."
     
  16. jhbyrd

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    Actually 5* that want to go NFL prefer to play versus the higher talent levels of the SEC as it prepares them better for the NFL.
     
  17. jhbyrd

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    Yes.
    5 stars like 4 stars have people who under perform. There are just a higher % who under perform in the 4 star category as compared to % who under perform in the 5 star category.
     
  18. xenythx

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    Sure there may be 5-star busts here and there, but your goal should be to stockpile as many of them as you can because when one turns out to be as good as advertise, they can be program-changers. For example: All them Alabama players, Deshaun Watson, Jameis Winston, Cam Newton, Tebow, Harvin, Vince Young, Reggie Bush, etc. These types of players have led their programs to something like 14 of the last 16 national championships.

    It's hard to win a championship without these types of transcendental 5-star talents.
     
  19. Briang8r

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    It should be a little smaller:ninja3:
     
  20. Wanne15

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    Not sure why spellcheck would do that both times