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John Allen joins the military anti-Trump train

Discussion in 'GatorNana's Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by oragator1, Jun 4, 2020.

  1. oragator1

    oragator1 Premium Member

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  2. cocodrilo

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    Trump may get so mad he's unable to walk due to inflamed bone spurs.
     
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  3. NavyGator93

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    Here is a version that isn't behind a pay-wall. Do yourself a favor and don't read the comments, it is amazing how many people skewer a man who put his life in danger a thousand times for his country because he said something bad about trump. Could any group of people hate their country more than these commenters?

    Gen. John Allen, anti-ISIS envoy under Obama, rips Trump in Foreign Policy op-ed
     
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  4. cocodrilo

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    It's a cult. It's not necessarily hate for their country, it's devotion to their leader above all else.
     
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  5. GatorRade

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    I prefer the term tribe, but yes tribalism has the potential to cause people to abandon personal values in support of the tribe’s values. This is just the latest iteration of an age old story.

    Trump losing the election certainly won’t put an end to this phenonomenon, but I still very much hope it happens.
     
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    Very powerful. I thought the call for unit and one of the better summaries of causation from a republican:

    "First, Donald Trump expressed only the barest of condolences at the murder of George Floyd, but he also said nothing about the fundamental and underlying reasons for the unrest: systemic racism and inequality, a historic absence of respect, and a denial of justice. All of these factors are centuries old and deeply engrained in an American society that systematically delivers white privilege at the expense of people of color."
     
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    Also... are these generals having these letter written for them or are they just that smart? Very eloquent and a few well placed serious SAT words.
     
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    Much like POTUS, they use the best words!!!!
     
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    Shorter and very much on brand, the lieutenant general that led the turn around on Katrina relief efforts joined in as well:

     
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    Comments are amazing. If Trump shot a man running away in the back on 5th Avenue, Trumpeteers would proclaim self defense. I’ve given up trying to understand such people.
     
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    I think some of it's a math thing. I notice in the Florida Times Union comment section it's usually the same 30-50 people. In a nation of 430 mil if 10,000 people constantly comment on political articles online that seems like a ton when just viewing the comments, but in reality it's a tiny tiny percent.
     
  13. NavyGator93

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    Mattis had been referred to as a warrior-scholar. The competition to get to the top of the military food chain is extremely intense, well educated and smart is one minimum requirement. Mostly gone are the days when just being a bad-ass would get you to the top.
     
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  14. NavyGator93

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    Yeah, hate is a strong word. I get a little carried away when I see someone cast aside a military hero for the love of someone so obviously flawed. Forget the general's incredible life of sacrifice, did you see that tweet from trump?
     
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  15. GatorNavy

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    John Allen was a classmate of mine and we also went through The Basic School together. I believe he was on track to become Commandant of the Marine Corps had it not been for the email investigation in 2012/13. Even though he was cleared of any UCMJ violations, the publicity in the press sealed his fate. He is a good guy and I respect his opinion.
     
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  16. Gatorhead

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    Further erosion and lack of continued tolerance. We need the human beings in Gov't, irregardless of party, to step up.

    Thank you for the link
     
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    Academy or War College?
     
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  18. cocodrilo

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    I don't want to see Trump nor his tweets. Garbage in, garbage out. I've got to look out for my health.
     
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    Academy, 1976. Go Navy!
     
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  20. Trickster

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    You’re right. Same phenomenon here.