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Jake Tapper Draws Liberal Outrage Over New Biden Book

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by ETGator, May 20, 2025 at 8:55 AM.

  1. ETGator

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    There are a lot more on the Twiiter/X feed. These give a good idea of the backlash Tapper is facing for his still stubborn refusal to admit he was as big a part of the problem as anybody.

    I agree with several who have spread the blame . . . but this guy seems like someone who would shove women and children down to commandeer a lifeboat from the Titanic.
     
  2. citygator

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    In 2022 I was working for a company whose conservative CEO met with Biden with a group of CEOs for a good part of the day. He reported back afterwards in a small group that he found Biden to be sharp, retained numbers and specifics very well, and debated adeptly… although he disagreed with many of the points Biden made. In 2024 his debate performance was terrible and he stepped aside… too late.

    Acting like Biden had years of substandard performance is revisionist and unsupported. Biden was definitely old and aging and not at all inspiring at his peak 30 years ago much less in 2024. However, this is all a diversion so the Emperor with no clothes fans can feel better about their naked President.
     
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  3. l_boy

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    Looking through this thread I’m not seeing the liberal outrage at the book. Other than his family and a few that tried to conceal it most Democrats are repositioning on this.
     
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    I think it can both be true that he was experiencing some decline 2 years ago but still overall competent. Clearly the last year he was worse.

    At this point I don’t think there is anybody other than Joe and Jill asserting he was fit to run in 2024.
     
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  5. CaptUSMCNole

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    Trump can be crazy. Biden can be in mental decline. One has nothing to do with the other.

    We are talking about Biden here and there is zero doubt at this point that he was experiencing mental decline during at least the last two years of his Presidency. I do not get why you need to drag Trump into this conversation when he was not in Biden's Admin or part of the team that was trying to hide Biden's decline.
     
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  6. citygator

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    I was explaining why the right is so fixated on it. There is very little, if any, evidence of a white house acting ineffectively. There is tons of evidence about the current one. You will never know when and if there was mental decline of Biden to put his decision making skills at risk. I told you I heard first hand on someone who verified his capabilities. Maybe two years of decline happened fast, or slow? I dont know. But I do know goobers on here were posting doctored and cut pieces of Biden long before that debate.
     
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  7. citygator

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    I wont disagree. When he said he was running I was critical. Ego ruins a lot.
     
  8. CaptUSMCNole

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    You are completely missing the point of why folks on the right are all over this story. Biden was in mental decline, the media covered it up, and anyone that reported on it or brought it up had their professionalism attacked by Democrats and Media figures. Correct if I'm wrong but isn't this what you posted about Robert Hur last year:

    It is not a question of "if", it is a question of "when." How many more books do you need to see published before you can admit what actually happened?

    There is plenty of evidence of the White House working ineffectively. Biden could only work 10-4 in the office. Cabinet Secretaries stated Biden could not handle a major crisis in his last year. The real question that needs to be asked now, is who was actually making decisions?
     
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  9. citygator

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    Are you saying the media didnt report every single slip up Biden made in public constantly as a beating drum? Were were you the last 4 years? The second any of us saw that Joe was unable to debate, including the media, there were no excuses. He was toast. Trump demonstrates that kind of disconnect daily... but add in corruption on top.

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  10. CaptUSMCNole

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    I'm saying that anytime a major outlet did a story on Biden's mental decline or someone like Robert Hurr brought it up, prior to the debate in June, they had their professionalism attacked by media outlets and Democrats.

    Do you feel you owe Robert Hur an apology for calling him a POS and saying he had zero integrity?
     
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  11. citygator

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    I said up thread I listened to 2 hours of the interview and did not hear a broken buffoon. I also asked for the part of the tape I am supposed to listen to that has you convinced that he was unable to do his duties. I will listen with an open mind but it wasnt in the first 2 hours. I am not going to attest that Biden was capable of running 4 more years. Here was my post debate take:

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  12. CaptUSMCNole

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    The part where Biden could not recall when he was VP. He could not recall the year Beau died. He was asked about his house in McLean and went on a long rambling answer that got into the two things I mentioned above.

    I'll assume that you do not think you owe Robert Hur an apology since there was no mental decline with Biden.
     
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  13. citygator

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    Again. I mentioned up thread in the audio thread.. after 2 hours I fast forwarded to hour 3 or 4 and happened to stop on the part where there was a rapid fire exchange of questions and he said the year and asked if he was VP at that time. Didnt sound crazy to me.

    I am interviewing currently for a new opportunity and without my resume knowing exactly what role I was in by year is difficult and I am sharper than Biden.. slightly. I know 2020 and 2021 easily due to the covid disruption. I'll remember this year easily due to the tariff fiasco. But ask me what roll I had exactly in 2022 or 2023 I'd need to think it through due to no big identifiable timestamp, or ask someone with the detail in front of them.
     
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    He did not know when he was VP, when Trump was elected, when his son died. I do not think any of us would need a lawyer next to us to say when Biden was VP or when Trump was elected, and we are not even elected politicians that were personally involved in those elections.

    If you want to say you think he was cogent, go ahead but realize that you are now arguing against the evidence and the on the record positions of Democrats now.
     
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    The prosecutors summary of that interview was when it was obvious to me that Biden was not capable to run again. It seemed to me that he was independent enough that his account should be given significant weight. I think I said so at the time in the forum.
     
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  16. citygator

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    I am simply stating there is a gulf between having the evidence of him being UNFIT and what we have seen, including this recording. The debate was the first real evidence that he was not fit to run again and guess what? He was out in days.

    You are acting like there was mounds of evidence.. including this audio tape that I have spent time listening to suggesting he was unfit. If there is you can point me to it. But in a 5 hour audio tape, if you listen to it, he is answering many questions, some from a long time ago, with mostly fine answers. Some quick clarifying questions on timelines isnt him demonstrating being unfit. Shit listen to around 3:16 forward where he is clarifying whether he was VP or President for a question.

    Give me 5-10 mins to really listen to that shows he was unfit. I will be glad to do it. I was very disappointed he ran again but even more disappointed he was unfit to do it. He was.
     
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    There were mounds of evidence. That is what this book is all about. I assume you are not going to read it so I’ll give you this clip where Tapper has to admit the Conservative media outlets got it right and were savagely attacked for their accurate reporting.



    And for the record, Biden did not drop put in a matter of days. He stayed in for weeks and did multiple events and interviews trying to say he just had a bad night.
     
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  18. vaxcardinal

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    The cabinet secretaries see the president at all the cabinet meetings over the 4 years…oh wait.
     
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    Come on City, you were one of Biden’s biggest defenders until the debate. It was clear for all to see where he was cognitively, you can’t believe all his aides and close advisors didn’t see it.
    Had he not run again the Dems could have put up a reasonable candidate who would have beat Trump handily.
    Chiding Tapper is silly, the fault with him is he didn’t say more sooner bu t he would have been run out on a rail, the left leaning press is just as much at fault as the idiots who voted for Trump again.
     
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    Had Harris tried to run she would have been trashed in the primaries, Biden would have been off the hook WRT backing her.