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Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by The_RH_Factor, Oct 25, 2021.

  1. 92gator

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    Point?

    Therefore shut up about TG, let him earn 1 1/2 mil to suck out loud for another yeae, bc he might leave?

    Hows about we help him out with that decision...let him know he dun wore out his welcome...
     
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  2. Distant Gator

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    I had this thought this weekend.
    That TG is out the door, knows it, and isn't working too hard.

    I mean- how hard is it to stop that basic running play that LSU kept doing over and over?
    It cant' be that hard.
     
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  3. GatorMatt06

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    First of all, what? The whole knock on him was that UGA/UL/MSU fans were telling us he brings endless ridiculous blitzes that give up 3rd downs every time or that he did the throat slash against us and was a classless Dawg coach.

    Second of all, you want people to not discuss hypotheticals based on history because you’ve ordained a counter hypothetical based on history? Lol

    I mean you’re entitled to an opinion and I respect it but IDK why you think others aren’t.
     
  4. GameTime1

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    If he's already got his bags packed, isn't he a detriment to our team?
     
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  5. GatorMatt06

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    This is my biggest problem right now with that logic.

    If he’s sticking around trying to save his job but doesn’t have a shot, will he be able to motivate players or will he be checked out?

    And if he is already gone officially behind the scene, even moreso.

    This is like when you lay someone off but ask them to work their last 2 weeks. Good luck getting much out of them.

    Yeah you could say he’ll be motivated by his pay or his next job’s pay, but someone will pay him over $1m for his next job and he gets his current paycheck regardless. There’s no reason to keep him and other programs would have demoted or fired him already to send a message to the staff and locker room after that LSU game.
     
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  6. The_RH_Factor

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    By the way, what’s happened to David Reese this year?
     
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  7. Skink

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    I see you are very familiar with strawman arguments - which comes as no surprise. But as long as you’re pushing the argument, stating that I am ‘personally invested in defending Mullen to the end’ has a ring of truth. It all comes down to our definition of “the end”. For some of y’all it was several games ago. Then there’s that ‘in all kinds of weather we’ll all stick together’ brand of loyalty that defines “the end” a bit farther out. Fans like that are a huge part of why Clemson rose to the top of the heap in the last several years. You guys would have never tolerated keeping Dabo around long enough to build his program. Me?…..

    For now I’ll put “the end” a few years farther out — unless Mullen either:
    1) starts Jones against Georgia, or
    2) keeps Grantham beyond the end of this season.
    Either would be just cause to bring out the hook for our head coach.

    So we probably aren’t as far apart as it seems - the difference is I’m not rattling the sabres and lighting crosses and calling for his head while this season plays out. Gotta stand behind our team until “the end”, because “the end” may not come for a very long time. Personally I hope that’s the case
     
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  8. Skink

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    20/20 hindsight is easy
     
  9. Matthanuf06

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    Now you are using logical fallacies

    You said your line in the sand was EJ starting or extending Grantham. Let’s assume Dan does this and you turn negative

    Then the team flames out in 2022 (as we both would expect in this scenario) but then some random poster in November 2022 says that we only knew it because hindsight is 20/20
     
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  10. Skink

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    huh?
     
  11. Matthanuf06

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    What don’t you understand? Why would the fact that many wanted TG last year less credible than you wanting him gone at the end of the year?
     
  12. DieAGator

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    I would say to the OP that some of us understand that we are an underdog to georgia almost entirely because their staff has been more successful at what it takes to build exceptionalism. Kirby and his staff exemplify The Gator Standard more so than CDM and his staff.
     
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  13. GatorMatt06

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    LMAO you legitimately circle all the way back to my original point to say the same thing and I’m the one rattling a saber?

    I think there’s no difference between our position but you’ve decided to build me up as someone actively campaigning to get rid of Mullen. I’m not. I think he may not be the guy but it’s not definitive and he deserves some more time to try to correct deficiencies and I’m excited to see what he can do with AR.
     
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  14. Noah_Brindise

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    Shockingly Dabo made changes when things went south and that's the reason he kept his job. We had a year of the defense costing us every loss and wasting a championship level offense yet Grantham was kept around. After West Va destroyed Clemson in the Orange Bowl Dabo went out and got Venables. It's easy to play the "Gator fans are too tough" game and ignoring the details.
     
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  15. WC53

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    Lotta battered spouse syndrome vs enough ;)
     
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  16. gator_n_sc

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    Some of yall need to chill, I was talking about he was gonna probably leave after this season anyways based on his track record. He'd be doing us a favor. Not once in that post did i advocate keeping him, accepting what he's doing or even not criticizing him. Sheesh!!!! I can't even post a post just for conversation purposes with out rude ass responses like "point?" Isn't the point of a message board to post messages? I mean you act like I came on and said "yall stop picking on the guy" I simply said he may already be planning to leave based on his history of 3-4 years and gone and that WE (myself included) may just be wasting our time wondering if he'll be fired.
     
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  17. gator_n_sc

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    Absolutely
     
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  18. gator_n_sc

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    TG was widely criticized for his rather "Nomadic" approach to his coaching stops and if you look back at his resume it was not without merit as he often found new homes... never said the over aggressive blitzing was not a knock on him, not sure where you got that from as I never said him changing jobs was his only knock, he has plenty,

    And to your second point where did I say people can't discuss hypothetical because of whatever you said. Not once, I said WE (as in myself too) may be just wasting our time wondering if he's gonna get fired or be retained and the while time he might just be already planning to bolt town. Not even sure how you came to the conclusion that I think others are not allowed to have opinions.

    Man, I can't even join in on the replace TG conversation without getting blasted. Yall really need to chill out.
     
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  19. Matthanuf06

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    TG switching jobs wasn’t about him wanting a new challenge, it was about him wearing out his welcome
     
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  20. swamp life

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    What i hate is the fact we seem to be on different trajectories.. Georgia is loading up for an undefeated season and national title. They have gone toe to toe with bama the last several years and probably should have won at least one of those. Kirby is building a monster with 5 stars all over the place.
    We are floundering at best. Lame duck DC.. Piss poor recruiting and a HC that doesn't understand putting your best players on the field regardless of time in program.
    We need to do something soon or georgia is gonna put us in the rearview mirror and not look back.
    Putting the orange and blue glasses back on now
     
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