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It’s Official: VA Lt. Gov’s Sexual Assault Allegation Has Become Another Dumpster Fire For Democrats

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by philobeddoe, Feb 5, 2019.

  1. citygator

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    No one is calling this woman a liar (except the accused). The whole conservative nation rallied against a credible Ford because Kavanaugh was conservative. People on this board posted “liar” daily. The most you are getting from progressives is a wait and see. You can’t equate the two. Well you can but you’d be lying to yourself which you guys do daily.
     
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  2. BigCypressGator1981

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    Yeah I doubt he survives this. So very disturbing.
     
  3. CaptUSMCNole

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    We’re you were in a coma all from July to November? That pretty much exactly what Democrats tried to do to Kavanaugh.
     
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  4. CaptUSMCNole

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    You had the same thing from the left calling Kavanaugh a rapist even though he had never even been accused of that. All over a accusation that provided no evidence that could be disproved and every person identified as being present said they were never at a gathering like the one the accuser described.

    FYI, Georgetown Prep has told it students not to wear their blazers off campus because some many of them were being accosted by crazy leftists calling them future rapists.

    No one side has the monopoly on the sanity.
     
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  5. duchen

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    Congress is not having conformation haarongs concerning the Va. Lieutenant governor. This is not a nominee to the Supreme Court that it merits the coverage the netoeorks gave to Kavanaugh. Both matters merit thorough investigation by appropriate government, whether law enforcement (which did not happen with Kavanaugh) or in the Virginia legislature. And MSNBC is covering this as I write as more information comes forward.
     
  6. philobeddoe

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    LOL … Rev Al calls for the two white guys who wore "black face" to resign …. but says

    Virginia Mulls Misdeeds of Its Leaders and Braces for More Turmoil
     
  7. CaptUSMCNole

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    The LtGov is in a job interview for Governor, so we are having an impromptu job interview in Virginia right now. Seeing the craziness of Virginia Democrats these last two weeks, it certainly merits on the record statements from prominent Democratss about this matter.

    There was nothing for law enforcement to check in the Kavanaugh case. The accusation was over 30 years old, no time or place was given for it, no one named as being there could remember attending such a gathering, and there was no physical evidence to collect. What was there to investigate? Additionally you had every Democratic leader saying an FBI investigation could be done in less than three before the investigation was authorized and when it was concluded in three days, they were outrageously outraged that the investigation took three days.
     
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  8. duchen

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    Never know what would have been the fruits of an investigation because it didn’t happen. Instead, the right branded her a liar and she was threatened and attacked. Not happening with the woman in Viginia and others are now coming forward. Happened years ago. Probably no physical evidence of violence. So, a Cosby case now.
     
  9. citygator

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    Fox has lost its mind over this. It’s a whole new opportunity to slam and slander Ford. They find the new women credible though... still not Ford though.
     
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  10. citygator

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    Oh Jesus. Now they are saying Pubs have been consistent- due process. They wanted to rush the Kavanaugh confirmation. Had a 1 week timeline. PLEASE.

    How would this go: If we can’t find physical proof in 1 week let’s make the VA LT Gov a Supreme Court justice?
     
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  11. citygator

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    Ha ha. Now they are saying Dems are condemning him now but “not at first”. It took them 3-4 days to whip up momentum to consider removal. As if Pubs did anything other than brand Ford a liar and rush the process to a faux deadline.

    Any pub not ready to die on the cross for this guy is a hypocrite. Oh, that’s redundant.
     
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  12. CaptUSMCNole

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    There was an investigation of Ford’s accusations and the FBI came back and said there is nothing they could confirm or disprove due to the extremely vague nature of Ford’s allegation, no one she named could remember a party like she described, and there was no physical evidence to collect or review.

    As far as Fairfax goes right now, we have one accusation that both parties agree something happened but disagree over consent. There is now a second accusation but we have no details at the moment. This could be legit or a crazy person coming out of the woodwork like we saw near the end of the Kavanaugh hearings. There are rumors on Twitter of the press being aware of more women who will accuse Fairfax of similar things.

    Fairfax says he is not going to resign and wants a full investigation of the allegations against him. I’m not sure there is a law enforcement agency who would be responsible for doing an investigation of this but I’m sure there is a law firm that could be hired to do it. The question is will any of the women want to participate in the investigation if Fairfax is paying for it to be done. If not, where does that leave us?
     
  13. duchen

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    The FBI conducted a limited investigation of Ford-Kavanaugh. Expressly limited
    by the investigative order and time spent on it. The investigation was nonsense and any assertion that there was nothing to be found is better rephrased to be: nothing corroboratimg was found in the limited time and within the restrictions given. As for Fairfax, there are law enforcement agencies who would be charged with investigating the allegations. I think the first incident happened outside of Virginia. The second allegedly happened at Duke. Agencies wherever the incidents occurred should investigate supervised by a prosecutor. A law firm dows not have subpoena power.
     
  14. CaptUSMCNole

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    The FBI said that they investigated all they could in the evidence provided.

    For law enforcement agencies to get involved the women would all have to file charges against Fairfax. Dr. Tyson has already said she is not going to do that. I doubt the women from Duke is willing to either. There is also a question if the statue of limitations has passed. If that is the case, who is left to investigate other than a private firm?

    Or are we going to ask the Virginia AG to do the investigation? That would be interesting and not filled with any conflicts of interest.
     
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    It seems the second women’s accusation has pushed a lot of 2020 Democratic candidates off the fence. Booker, Warren, and Gillderbran have all now publicly said Fairfax needs to resign.
     
  16. duchen

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    If the women are not willing to make criminal complaints, they can be subpoenaed involuntarily. If not, then there is no investigation. The lack of willingness bears upon the strength of their stories. As for the FBI in Kavanaugh, that is not accurate. They were asked to do a limited background investigation with limits on time and who they could interview. One week. It has somehow now magically grown into this thorough criminal investigation. Didn’t happen.
     
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    If we are going to complain about the lack of time given to the FBI we need to be fair. It was Ford whondisnt come forward untnthe 11yh hour. It was Feinstein that held the info until the last minute. Both of these women had every opportunity to set te ball rolling early but chose not to. Given the complete lack of evidence and the timing of the accusations ibcan understand why Republicans wanted to push forward.
     
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  18. CaptUSMCNole

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    Please explain the process to me that would allow any of these woman to be subpoenaed involuntarily without a criminal complaint. Where would the subpoena power come from?
     
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    I don't know if Kavanaugh was a rapist or not. But there was nothing for law enforcement to investigate? How about perjury? Kavanaugh shamelessly lying at the hearing, under oath. But they weren't going to investigate it, because he was lying about the meaning of juvenile sexual slang terms used in his school days. Unseemly, no big deal, there's perjury and then there's perjury. Put that man on the Supreme Court!
     
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    It’s already been discussed (in this thread, I think) that the perjury does not look likely either. There’s credible evidence from the period that backs up his version, and nothing that refutes it, except what people “know” he meant as a teenager. Could he have been lying and retroactively “planted” his supporting evidence of what “FFF” means? Of course. Shabadoo said only forensic analysis of the ink would convince him. But again one has to prove that if you want a crime to stick and deprive someone of a job for which they’re otherwise qualified. What we “know” Kavanaugh did or meant 30 years just isn’t good enough.