Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by philobeddoe, Feb 5, 2019.
In Virginia … I think we may be seeing the beginning of the #YouToo movement.
Interesting.... if the VA gov and AG resign over their black face snafus, and the AG resigns over the sex assault charges, appears a republican becomes VA’s gov.
All three are not going to resign. Northam is so dug in right now that his team is pouring concrete for the bunkers.
Only if they all resigned at once and no successors were appointed.
What a mess.
I read an article that stated the LtGov position would remain empty until the next state wide election, which is in 2021. The President Pro Tempore of the Senate assumes the duties of LtGov but does not actually hold the office.
If the AG resigns, the Legislature elects the replacement.
It is now being reported that Dr. Tyson told a Va Congressman, Rep. Bobby Scott, about this accusation in 2017 when Fairfax was running for office. We’ll see impact this has on the story.
You need to start with the correct assumptions: that republicans are the kind of people that commit sexual assaults, and democrats aren't (unless it's Bill Clinton, and he's just feeling their pain, you know, for their own good). No woman in her right mind would willingly have sex with a misogynistic, woman-hating republican. Women do have consensual sex with democrats--ask any democrat, and they will confirm this.
Once your assumptions are properly aligned, you can tell who's lying and who isn't. That helps you decide which accusations to give air time to.
Nothing to see here.
This story just took a serious turn for the worse for Fairfax. The WashPo and NYTimes have an ex-boyfriend of Dr. Tyson on record stating that based on her childhood trauma, she was very clear with him what she was not comfortable doing and what happened with Fairfax was one of those things.
This guy might be lying but it is something to keep an eye on. If another ex-boyfriend comes out and says the same thing, I think Fairfax is in real trouble.
This is nothing to do with Pubs or Dems.
Women rarely make sexual assault claims like this without something having happened.
I don't see how she would gain from making a claim like this, and it certainly isn't the first time it has been reported.
Like the Kavanaugh case, it will likely just be a he said, she said, but I think it should be taken seriously.
Politically this has everything to do with how Democrats handled the Kavanaugh accusations. We were told that “We must believe all women!” was the standard that must be applied in cases like these. Even if a time and a place could not be provided and no witness could back up the woman’s account, it doesn't matter.
We had a very long thread about that with those on the right of this board saying this was not a reasonable standard. The idea that due process must be available to everyone in this situation was not accepted on both sides.
Those are the standards that Democrats established and said they will hold public figures to. Now they have one of their own in the same situation, likely worse as both parties say something happened, and Democrats left and right are ducking the press to avoid having to comment on this issue versus last summer there wasn’t a microphone they wouldn’t run to during the Kavanaugh hearings.
Looks like another allegation is out there now, he's done. Though the tide had turned once the first woman made her public statement.
Second woman has stepped forward. We’ll have to wait to see what the details are of this allegation and how credible they are.
I don't agree that the expectation was to believe all women.
The expectation was to take the accuser seriously as should be done here. But there was a rush to confirm Kavanaugh regardless of his fitness for the position. And he demonstrated serious flaws including many blatant lies, some of which occurred in prior confirmation hearings. He lies habitually in confirmation hearings, and should have been denied on that basis.
Likewise the Dems played too much politics trying to delay the hearings, and likely hurt the possibility of real l, full investigation being done into the accusers' accusations.
Bottom line is sexual assault should be taken seriously, and given a fair hearing to all involved. Regardless or partisan bias.
There was no rush to confirm Kavanaugh unless you take into account the Democrats blantant attempts to delay the hearings with DiFi bringing up Ford’s allegation after she had been sitting on them for months. It was a last ditch attempt to kill the nomination and then use the opening to turn out Dem voters for the midterms.
Love to hear the blantant lies Kavanaugh told. I’m hoping it’s all about the Devil’s Triangle and what FFF really stood for all over again.
This is exactly what is meant by "believe women" - some people have twisted that to mean "believe any allegation, no due process, no matter what." Taking an accusation seriously and as made in good faith isnt accepting its truth without question.
“Believe” - I don’t think that word means what you think it means.
Well, if you want to be wrong and think that it means we must believe even the flimsiest of allegations automatically without question, or investigation and sting up the accused without due process, go ahead and be wrong and get an ulcer about all the hypocrisy you are going to see. Have fun with that.