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Is Israel a cult?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by vegasfox, Jun 1, 2025 at 9:01 AM.

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  1. vegasfox

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    This is more than 4 paragraphs but it comes from 3 sources. First, "b" (Bernhard) from the blog Moon of Alabama:

    "I have not written much about the war on Gaza. It is so brutal and and the Zionist behavior is so alien to me that I lack words to describe it.

    I have difficulties to understand how anyone, any group of people, could set themselves so far outside of the common human realm, as I perceive it, and commit itself to starve and genocide millions of people."

    A man named Yasha Levine helped "b" understand:

    ".. I came across this…a brief statement by a celebrity Chabad rabbi about his thoughts on the proper way to wage a war in the Jewish style. I wanted to share it with you.":

    I don’t believe in western morality, i.e. don’t kill civilians or children, don’t destroy holy sites, don’t fight during holiday seasons, don’t bomb cemeteries, don’t shoot until they shoot first because it is immoral.

    The only way to fight a moral war is the Jewish way: Destroy their holy sites. Kill men, women and children (and cattle).

    The first Israeli prime minister who declares that he will follow the Old Testament will finally bring peace to the Middle East.

    ...

    Rabbi Manis Friedman
    Bais Chana Institute of Jewish Studies
    St. Paul, MN


    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/04/the-cult-that-murders-gaza.html


    Levine goes on to explain that Rabbi Manis Friedman is well known in the Jewish world and his views on the correct way to wage war on Israel's enemies in Gaza and beyond were published in 2009 in the mainstream Jewish magazine Moment, which was cofounded by Elie Wiesel.

    Todsy Friedman’s views have evidently become mainstream in Israel and in Jewish communities accross the globe. What Friedman described as the correct, godly way to wage war against the enemies of Israel is in fact what Israel is currently doing in Gaza and outside of Israel, with total support from the United States and Europe.

    Has Israel become part of the cult of Chabad? (Chanad is a religious sect founded in the 1700's in a Belorussian village)
     
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  2. CaptUSMCNole

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    @rivergator & @OklahomaGator & @g8orbill - I do not believe Moon of Alabama is an approved site to start a thread since it is known as a website for conspiracy theories. And this is skirting the line of being anti-Semitic.

    And for the record, this post is completely wrong when it comes to the what is happening in Israeli.
     
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  3. ajoseph

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    Jews have been here for over 5,000 years.

    Unfortunately, hate has been here longer.
     
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  4. vegasfox

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    Article:

    What is Chabad? From
    This once small Hasidic group has grown to unparalleled global influence.

    By My Jewish Learning

    It is also sometimes known as Lubavitch (or ) after the town in Russia where the movement was centered for much of the 19th century.

    Though not numerically the largest Hasidic group in the world, it is by far the best-known and the most visible thanks to decades of outreach work seeking to bring non-religious Jews closer to their faith. Chabad is unique among Hasidic groups for its eagerness to engage with the broader Jewish community, its embrace of modern technology and communications tools to spread its message, and its global presence. From Memphis to Mumbai, Bangkok to Boston, there is scarcely a major city on the planet that does not have a permanent Chabad presenc


    Chabad’s influence is largely the product of the efforts of nearly 5,000 Chabad outreach professionsls — known as shluchim, or emissaries — that operate some 3,500 Chabad institutions in 100 countries and all 50 U.S. states. Typically, the shluchim are a married couple that live in and operate a “Chabad house,” offering meals, classes, prayer services and (depending on the location) tourist services. In some countries, Chabad is the only organized Jewish presence.

    Chabad is also an active presence at American colleges and universities, operating close to 300 Chabad on Campus centers providing services to Jewish students. The group is highly visible on the internet, operating (among other websites) Chabad.org, which claims to get 52 million visitors annually. It runs one of the largest Orthodox publishing houses in the United States, an international youth group, and a worldwide network of dozens of yeshivas. The Jewish community federations in Russia and the former Soviet bloc are both run by Chabad emissaries. And what is reputed to be the largest Passover Seder in the world is organized each year in Nepal by a Chabad emissary.
    https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/chabad-today/
     
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    The OP is quoting a conspiracy website that also has a history of antisemitism.

    If you want to make that argument, it is very legitimate as I think you post in good faith. I just would not be trying to make it on this thread with this poster as the point you are defending.
     
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    What is Chabad-Lubavitch?
    Chabad-Lubavitch is a major movement within mainstream Jewish tradition with its roots in the Chassidic movement of the 18th century. In Czarist and Communist Russia, the leaders of Chabad led the struggle for the survival of Torah Judaism, often facing imprisonment and relentless persecution for their activities. After the Holocaust, under the direction of Rabbi Yosef Yitzchaak Schneerson and his successor, Rabbi Menachem M. Schneerson, of righteous memory, Chabad became a worldwide movement, caring for the spiritual and material needs of all Jews, wherever they could be found.

    Today, over 3,500 Chabad institutions are located in more than 100 countries, with a new center opening on the average every ten days. In South Africa, South America, Russia, Australia, Asia, the UK, and many parts of the USA, Chabad has become the most dynamic and dominant force within the Jewish community.

    https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/776104/jewish/FAQ.htm
     
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    That's exactly correct. What's going on in Gaza is a genocide (and Trump is complicit if that helps).

    Max Blumenthal follows Moon of Alabama on X (@MoonofA) and he also considers what's going on in Gaza a genocide
     

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    Give 1 example
     
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    You're right. I'm going to delete
     
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    Ray McGovern is a former top level CIA analyst. He calls it the Gaza genocide. I didn't think this was really that controversial. Trump should end it instead of enabling it.
     
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    Indonesia or Libya, take your pick Gazans who oppose Israel or fight and die, your choice. All morality went away on October 7. This war is to complete the death and destruction of Hamas and all those who support Hamas.

    No, I will not dignify the terrorist enemy monsters by referring to them as Palestinians. There is no Palestine and there will never be a Palestine.
     
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    Just because I like Trump doesn't mean I'll look the other way regarding Gaza. Scott Ritter used to work with the Mossad and he was a supporter of Israel. No longer

     
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    Scott Ritter. Why are you quoting a groomer?
     
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    LOL! It's far more likely that Hamas murdered these people and their families for daring to not support Hamas.
     
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    There is no good side to this war(imho). No matter how often it is argued Palestine is controlled by Hamas. Palestinians have been quoted as wanting the death do Israel.. river to the sea… the hatred is real on both sides.
    Hamas… the governing body of Palestine.. declared war on Israel on Oct 7th. They acted in the most cowardly despicable manner in attacking innocent farmers and children and taken many hostage.
    Israel has now destroyed Gaza in retaliation and shows no desire to stop. The idea that they are destroying Hamas is just a veiled way of saying we are destroying Palestinians.
    Hamas/Paleatine has a long history of provoking Israel and then Crying when Israel retaliates
    Israel has gone beyond retaliatory measures and is now looking to wipe out Gaza as a Palestinian home land.
    Both sides are sickening and we(US) need to be as far away from it as possible.
     
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    Remember, anyone even conceiving of taking the bait in this post, that the OP is a top 5 Russian propagandist on this Board. The same guy who cheers for the Putin murder machine crying genocide makes it so laughably transparent.
     
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    I will also add that the OP title for this thread is disgustingly and embarrassing that it has been left to stand on the page.
     
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    Now the children are starving over there, right on target to clear it out and put up a trumph hotel.
     
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    The title of the Moon of Alabama post written by Bernhard H. was
    The Cult that Murders Gaza

    This is the final paragraph of the post:
    This bears the question: How can one 'deprogram' a large people who have fallen for a cult like this?

    Posted by b on April 29, 2025


    I'd never heard of Chabad but it is growing rapidly. A new Chanad institute is opening about every 10 days. Evidently Cuanad rabbis are winning hearts and minds.I'm not sure what percent of the Israeli people think killing women, children and babies is okay but I think many do. I think those people are sort of in a cult and respected rabbis will hopefully deprogram them.

    I also think we should end the shipment of arms to Israel. Israel is giving up it's moral right to exist imo. At some point it's citizens might have to go back to Europe and the US. Our best ally in the Middle East might one day be Iran (again)
     
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