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Is Hunter's Laptop Still Considered Russian Disinformation?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Vindibudd, Aug 26, 2022.

  1. G8tas

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    The why do you guys blame Joe for the perceived "bad things" he's doing if he isn't in charge?
     
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  2. Trickster

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    Really??
     
  3. VAg8r1

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    I have absolutely no doubt the every one of the files found on "Hunter's" laptop is genuine including all of the emails. Hunter is essentially a grifter who tried to create the illusion that he could some how influence his father and tried to monetize the familial relationship apparent successfully. I still have doubts as to whether Hunter actually left the laptop at the computer repair shop in Wilmington, Delaware considering that he was living in Los Angeles at the time the computer was supposedly dropped off. I'm still holding to the theory that the emails as well as the photos of Hunter apparently strung out on drugs were obtained by hacking and then copied on to the hard drive of the computer. Keep in mind that the proprietor of shop stated that he was unable to confirm that it was actually Hunter who dropped off the computer.

    Waiting for a "Come On Man".
     
  4. ValdostaGatorFan

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    While the chain of custody is problematic, personally, I don't really think that him dropping off the laptop in Delaware is that unbelievable. Junkies do things that don't make sense to normal people all of the time.

    As far as the possibility of files that were obtained by ill-gotten means being placed on the laptop.. I'd say that is plausible. He would be a target for nation-state level offensive operations, IMO.
     
  5. citygator

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    Years later and they are still talking about Benghazi, Obama, Hillary, Hunter, the rigged election, killer vaccines, CRT, wokeness, and just about anything except how they will lower inflation, provide better healthcare, address the country's budget needs.
     
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  6. gaterzfan

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    Maybe Abbe Lowell is just wrong in asserting "Mr. Biden's personal computer data" was weaponized? Or, is Lowell lying? Assuming Lowell is not wrong or lying, then it is reasonable to conclude that H Biden admitted to his attorney that the laptop left with John Isaac was his (Hunter's) personal laptop. But, seemingly everything in which H Biden is involved is maximally absurd so who knows what he's said to whom about the laptop.

    "Mr. Mac Isaac chose to work with President Donald Trump’s personal lawyer to weaponize Mr. Biden’s personal computer data against his father, Joseph R. Biden, by unlawfully causing the provision of Mr. Biden’s personal data to the New York Post," (Abbe) Lowell wrote.


     
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  7. 92gator

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    Let's be clear here about the COC issue.

    If the contents lead to independently verifiable information or evidence, it would be no more tainted than if an unidentifiable stranger left a food stained napkin with GPS coordinates to a murder vic's body (and the body was found there) and a website address with a vid showing the murderer committing the murder and boasting about it.

    The computer itself could be subject to suppression due to COC, but "fruit of the poison tree" would only apply if it could be shown that the laptop was stolen by authorities or such, AND the evidence to which it led were not independently discoverable.

    Again though, these are issues for trial.

    Investigative agencies that arent in the tank for an alleged subject would be derelict in not dissecting the ever loving hell out of such a collection of potentially damning information.

    Our resident prosecutor knows this, but appears to prefer to play coy, in order to further his political agenda per snowglobe protocol.

    Stated differently--if that laptop was don jr's and it contained damning information to daddy trump, hed be singing an entirely different tune--which is benign enough for a piss contest forum like this--but utterly disgusting coming from our actual FBI.
     
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  8. 92gator

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    Hunters Lap top is only now getting play, bc our intel community actively and affirmatively sought to suppress it out of political motivation, and is only coming to light now due to a change of guard pulling the curtain back on that politically motivated cover up.

    You should be appalled--and I guaradamntee you would be, if intel was actively running cover like this for Trump.

    Pray that day never comes--alas, if you haven't figured it out yet, every such malevolent manipulation of the game, begets a greater retaliation.
     
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  9. citygator

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    Why do you care what is on Hunter’s laptop? What’s on your laptop/phone?
     
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  10. 92gator

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    Because of the reasons which promtped the delaware computer repair guy to reach out to the FBI--specifically, files indicating criminal activitiy vis a vis foriegn dealings with China and Ukraine.

    My laptops and cel phones have no incriminating information.

    Better question: why do you want potential damning espionage and corruption activity to be protected?

    (...besides your political inclinations that is...not that you would ever dare own such clearly transparent motivation--so by all means, pretend to deny--it's SOP in da 'globe...).
     
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  11. mrhansduck

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    I thought I read previously that there was child sex abuse material on the laptop, but I haven't heard anything about that recently. I keep hearing about an email referring to the "Big Guy." I'm not even clear what may or may not be on the laptop at this point.
     
  12. carpeveritas

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    For this to be plausible it would mean more than one person had access to Hunter Biden's laptop. At this point in time Hunter hasn't admitted to that yet given recent news it appears his lawyers have confirmed the laptop is in fact his albeit in a round about manner.

    Given Hunter's condition and antics we don't know if Hunter can even recall everything he has on that laptop. We don't even know the age of the laptop, how he organized files on that laptop or the size of the hard drive in question (reportedly hundreds of gigabytes). It is safe to assume that the hard drive did contain an OS (Windows or possibly Linux) as the laptop in fact wound up in a repair shop.

    What we do know is the Fed's have the original drive and laptop with at minimum three copies (New York Post, Mr. Giuliani and Mr. Isaac) that were made. The assumption is the hard drive was cloned which is a safe assumption because the laptop wound up in a computer repair shop. We also know the laptop was left with Mr. Issac in 2019. We also know Vice President Biden took office in 2009 and Windows 7 availability was late October 2009. We also know Hunter's laptop contains business dealings that occurred when President Biden was serving as Vice President due to media reports and congressional releases of said emails.

    All that said it doesn't mean Hunter's laptop wasn't upgraded and data being copied from an older laptop to support Windows 10 which was released in July of 2015.
     
  13. rivergator

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    Right wing media and people on social media pushed the child sex claims

    PolitiFact - Fact-checking unproven claims about Hunter Biden and child pornography.
     
  14. GatorJMDZ

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    May I assume you were unable to find any statements attributable to Hunter Biden that the laptop was his as you asserted in your quoted post?
     
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  15. 92gator

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    Opinion | Hunter Biden Claims His Laptop

    Can't assert privilege over something that aint yours.
     
  16. VAg8r1

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    I listened to the audio version. The text was behind a paywall. Hunter conceded that the files were real not that the hardware (the laptop itself) was his. There is a difference. Still standing by my position that the files were obtained through hacking and then copied to the hard drive of the computer.
     
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  17. philnotfil

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    We also know that the repair guy said there have been things released as being from the laptop that were not on the laptop when it was in his possession.
     
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    I think there is going to be an issue with verifiable evidence. Some can, and most likely has been, verified with a good degree of confidence, a lot may not be verifiable. Another issue would be that I'm not sure any civilians have actual forensic copies of the drive. The drive itself was subpoenaed by the feds. Before the laptop was seized, the computer repair guy made a copy of the HDD. Copies were made from that copy, and then given out. The copy that WaPo received was given to them by a Republican operative that worked for Steve Bannon. The copy that WaPo analyzed had already been altered by people other than Hunter. Logs have been damaged. Files have been added. etc.

    The only drive that should matter is the one that the feds seized, which no one has other than them that I'm aware of. The chain of custody on the drives given to the media is hosed. Hopefully the feds are able to do some good forensics on the drive that came out of the laptop, including malware analysis and data integrity.


    The original drive was subpoenaed, so there should not be any fruit of the poisoness tree issues here that I'm aware of. The issue is that was the data on the drive altered before it was seized. That could come in the way of the computer shop guy allowing others to access the drive before it was seized, or if the laptop was compromised before it was brought to the repair shop. That's for the FBI to find out.

    I agree.

    I think if you say "snowglobe" a couple dozen more times, it might catch on. :p
     
  19. carpeveritas

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    Agreed - What we don't have from Mr Isaac is the denunciation of specific reporting/articles/information that has been released. Nor would we have a way to back up his claim without having a copy of the hard drive. We do know other entities have a copy of that hard drive and agreement between those that have a copy would add to his claims of misinformation. However that alone is not proof that it is true. The FBI could certainly chime in about such misguided information but the trust factor at this point is abhorrent to say the very least.
     
  20. GatorJMDZ

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