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Iran launches retaliatory missile strikes into Israel

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Shade45, Oct 1, 2024.

  1. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

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    The main problem here is that Israel is full of nationalists and racists who hate Arabs. This is akin to telling MAGA republicans the solution to Mexican and Central American illegal immigration is to send money and develop infrastructure in Latin America. Its true, but ideologically nearly impossible. Its still more possible here though since white supremacy isnt written into our constitution the same way Jewish supremacy is written into theirs. But in either case, ethno-nationalism is the obstacle, and there are no credible alternatives being presented in Israel or the United States (now that liberals have Trumpified their immigration policy). Ultimately the liberal elements in both countries are willing to participate in the doom loop that will be their own destruction politically.
     
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  2. wgbgator

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    You literally just said if they all want to kill each other, have at it. Now you say otherwise. So what do you actually believe?
     
  3. duchen

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    Hamas is borne from the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. Not PLO. Gazans are largely Egyptian. Palestinians live in the refugee camps in Gaza. With exceptions. The PLO has morphed into the PA
     
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  4. duchen

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    Even Iran just said that Israel is too small to do anything to them. The “imperial power” you describe is the size of the state of New Jersey and was attacked 10-7 from land they gave to the Arabs to govern.
     
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  6. duchen

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    Millions of Arabs live in Israel. Jews have been forced out of almost every Arab country in the Middle East and Iran. The hatred Flores from the Arab side. The day Israel was created in 1948, the Arab nations attacked. There was no “occupied West Bank”then. Again, they attacked again and again. As they have for the last 76 years. The current boundaries of Israel are the 1967 armistice lines. Except for Gaza, which Israel returned. Jordan abandoned its claim to the West Bank. And there is no deal with Syria over the Golan. When your enemy doesn’t want peace and wants “from the River to the Sea,” you have no choice but to fight. There has never been a nation called Palestine. That concept was made up by the anti-Semitic world represented by the UN and its many resolutions defining land as belonging to a country that has never existed and the resolutions are contrary to the laws of war concerning armistice lines. Your posts are a fantasy
     
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  7. duggers_dad

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    Israel has to be breathing fire after this attack. Time to kill 200 more civilians.
     
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    It was a question based on your statement, which implied that there could finally be peace if we just let Israel's enemies erase Israel. Care to answer it?
     
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  11. ajoseph

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    How many Israelis do you know? How many have you sat down and just talked …. about anything? From your posting history , I feel confident that the answer is none.

    And, you commented in how “Jewish Supremacy” is written into the Israeli constitution. I’m guessing, with a pretty high degree of confidence, that you’ve never read a word of the Israeli constitution.

    But please, feel free to espouse your Qatarian theory. You have that right here.
     
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  12. ajoseph

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    He ignores all of this. He is an admitted Israel-hater who chooses to believe the Palestinian-propaganda. Your post is wasted energy.
     
  13. duggers_dad

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    Israel says nothing got hit, which is why it’s censoring places which have not been hit.
     
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  14. wgbgator

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    This is like saying lots of black people lived in Apartheid South Africa or many black people lived in the South prior to 1964.
     
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  15. wgbgator

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    I think you all are the ones who refuse to see Israel for what it is. Like you get mad when I call it a colonial state even when it literally is and settlers/settlements are a big issue. You get mad when I say Israel's constitution enshrines Jewish supremacy when it has its nation-state law saying Jewish people have a unique claim to the self-determination of Israel. I mean, as far as propaganda goes, we get one side here, and its not the Palestinian one.
     
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  16. gator95

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    Why are you engaging with someone who is obviously a troll on Israel? You are just giving them a platform. Just laugh at them and ignore them and they usually go away.
     
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  17. ajoseph

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    You‘ve never spoken to an Israeli. You’ve never read the Israeli constitution (or its equal rights inclusion). You lack a fundamental understanding of the creation of Israel and the wars it was forced to defend itself. But what you are, admittedly, is rich in false propaganda platitudes.
     
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  18. ajoseph

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    Mostly, tbh, because today is one of the Jewish High Holidays and I have little patience for it. And, the other part of me would hope that he would actually try and get an objective education of the region,the birth and reason for Israel, and it’s true history; not the bogus propaganda that comes—literally—from the Nazi propagandists who emigrated to Egypt shortly after the War.
     
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  19. mdgator05

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    I mean, he is right. This is a basic law, which is their version of a Constitution:

    Can you explain how that clause doesn't create a form of Jewish Supremacy, by saying that the right to exercise national self-determination in their state is unique to Jewish people?
     
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