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Insightful Article on Recruiting

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by doctorg8r, Feb 12, 2024.

  1. paidinfull

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    If the NFL wanted 17-18 old kids, they wouldn’t have the 3yr/21 rule. It’s their rule. They can remove it whenever they want.
     
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  2. CHFG8R

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    Why not? You're not getting this genie back in the bottle and every attempt to do so has negative consequences of its own. Just throw the barn door open and roll with a fully capitalist system. Everyone wants to wedge their own socialistic guardrails onto this thing. Just lean into it and accept the reality.
     
  3. CHFG8R

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    It's NFL rules. Probably going to fall under their right to do business the way they want.
     
  4. CHFG8R

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    Not really. UAA isn't under the umbrella of the state. My understanding is that it's a non-profit that exists for the purpose of funding the athletic program. It would probably be easier legally to just become an employee of it rather than the University.
     
  5. CHFG8R

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    You don't even read, just see Europe and go off one some outdated screed about WWII. Funny how my fellow Americans are so devoted to their Socialist sports systems. You're literally crying (and I am too) that they're taking away our Socialism while you get all squeamish at the thought of a purely Capitalist system.

    I say, screw it! Just go for it, throw the doors open and let the greedy bastards crash the system. Then, maybe, we can build something better out of the pieces.
     
  6. CHFG8R

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    But we all knew how NIL was going to get abused. Because NIL is a personal services contract. Call it a retainer for future services, or whatever you want to call it, but we all knew this was EXACTLY how boosters would be used. That's not a $500 handshake, it's a retainer for future services (i.e. go shake hands at my corporate golf scramble). There was NEVER, EVER any way to police this. Pros have contracts and get their NIL on top of that.
     
  7. filamg8torfan

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    I don't know if someone already asked this question. I don't pay attention to NIL. I come to GC to find news about the gators and recruiting. My question is do athletes receiving NIL compensation pay taxes for the money they received?
     
  8. paidinfull

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    They’re required to, yes. It is taxable income.
     
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  9. Wanne15

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    I don’t want the genie back in the bottle and I fully support the players getting paid. I just prefer the NFL system to major league baseball where you can just buy all the best players if you’re the Yankees.
     
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    It is their rule and it’s been challenged and failed. I still think the rule should be against the law though. It should fall under right to work. They are just using college football for their minor leagues but at least now the players are actually getting paid for playing the professional sport they’ve been playing for decades.
     
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    Fred Taylor on a podcast on video said Georgia gave him $50,000 to come to Georgia and he took their money and still went to Florida. I totally agree that players should be able to earn money, but they aren’t earning money. They are being given money by boosters, which is completely different than earning money. NFL players earn 51% of what the team generates. This crap they got going on right now it’s just Basically the same as under the table
     
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    That's friggin awesome! Love me some Fred Taylor.
     
  13. Wanne15

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    The courts did not say anything about what the colleges can pay. They just said the colleges cannot keep the athletes from getting paid. The only people saying that the colleges are not paying money is the colleges which are taking all the money
     
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  14. CHFG8R

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    Yankees haven't won a title in 25 years (apparently the Luxury Tax works).

    So then you have to have a union for the players if you want rules like that (or even Luxury Taxes) in place. Otherwise you bargain individually, like they do in soccer. Personally, I don't care because College Football is already dead. But the closest system to what we're seeing in College-Pro Football is Soccer where you have individual leagues (who bargain for their own TV deals, etc.), individual teams (not franchises) and you deal with the players individually. It's just that simple.
     
  15. CHFG8R

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    Again, more like the UAA. I mean, there's a provision where the UAA has to contribute a certain percentage of profits back to the general fund, but that's about it. The rest all goes into the non-profit UAA, whose responsibility is to fund and manage the athletic programs. The University of Florida and the UAA are separate entities, with the latter being the funding mechanism, not the university at large (that would be FSU).
     
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    They can make whatever rules they want to make. The rules at the colleges have made all along or why we are in this spot right now. I can change the rules if they want. It’s up to them
     
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    They could model it after soccer if they wanted to, but I prefer the NFL where the money is actually generated and you cannot pay more than what your team is generating. Everybody has the same payroll and no unfair advantages. The Yankees may not have win in 25 years, but they still won More World Series by far than anyone else . Padres have never won a World Series because they don’t have the money. Baseball is just a tricky game and the team does not always win. Football is much easier to buy a championship in.
     
  18. CHFG8R

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    What are you even talking about here? This has no relevance to my post. Not sure who you're talking about, but you can't just make up rules out of thin air. And there is no way to implement the kind of universal rules you want with out a union and a collective bargaining process. Sorry, you don't get to have your cake and eat it too. Best chance you've got for UF being in a system like the old one is if they choose to sit out of whatever Super League is coming down the pike.
     
  19. CHFG8R

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    There really is no "model" in soccer, it just is what it is: An open system. Teams and players negotiate individually.

    Also, hate to break this to you, but teams have been buying championships in college football forever. Or maybe you think Saban and Kirby are just wellsprings of personality. Only difference now is you can look at the receipt.
     
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  20. Crusher

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    It is a DSO (Direct Service Organization) to the University of Florida. There are a number of similar units. Its not technically a governmental entity, but it is controlled by a Board made up of mostly State/UF employees....so essentially controlled by UF and the State.
     
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