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Infrastructure: What do these Republicans think they're doing?

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by cocodrilo, Aug 1, 2021.

  1. cocodrilo

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    The Mad Loon of Mar-a-Lago told Republicans they would be primaried (what a wonderful American invention) if they even negotiate with the Democrats on infrastructure. So what happens? 17 Republicans voted to advance the infrastructure bill. I wonder why those 17 brave souls didn't listen to the Mad Loon. Could this be the start of something big? I doubt it, but hope springs eternal.

    Trump threatened to primary GOP lawmakers who favor the bipartisan infrastructure plan. 17 Republicans just voted to advance it, including Mitch McConnell.
     
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  2. gtr2x

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    It is mind boggling that an infrastructure bill wasn't passed at least 10 years ago much less now. Would seem to be one of the easiest bills to get thru Congress. Of course that assumes Country over party. Maybe we just need a bridge to collapse to get pols attention.
     
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  3. GatorNorth

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    The guy had 4 years to pass an infrastructure bill after telling the world it was easy, and now he’s going to primary anyone who does?

    Buffoon doesn’t even begin to cover it.

    And it will be much tougher to primary a senator running a statewide race rather than finding a house rep who lives in a weird district, like Boebert or MTG.
     
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  4. Trickster

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    I call it a contaminated gene pool area.
     
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  5. sierragator

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    too late, bridges have collapsed
    The party of NO at it again. So admirable.....
     
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  6. CaptUSMCNole

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    It funny to think that after Trump won the election in ‘16, there were lots of Republicans that were worried that Trump was going to be willing to cut way too many deals with Pelosi and Schumer to spend money on things like infrastructure.
     
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    Well to be fair, if bridges and other infrastructure have collapsed in the last several years, the blame should placed on the Biden/Obama administration who were in office for eight years prior to Trump and did little to improve infrastructure during that time. There was the 2009 infrastructure effort but that was a failure and hopefully Biden learns from the mistakes made during his time with Obama.

    One thing Biden hasn’t seemed to learn though, based on his comments regarding job creation is that once the bill is passed, it will take several years to see any economic impact at all. There will be a need for public hearings and zoning changes, not to mention environmental considerations that will delay any construction for months and even years. There will very few “shovel ready” projects and the only immediate jobs will basically be for bureaucrats and lawyers.
     
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  8. g8rjd

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    A little Sunday night reading for everyone.

     
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  9. CaptUSMCNole

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    A filibuster proof majority in the Senate.
     
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  11. gator_lawyer

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    Interesting. You're saying that President Obama blocked infrastructure bills from passing during his Presidency?
     
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  12. orangeblue_coop

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    Not Obama's fault that corrupt Republicans in Florida have been busy kissing Trump's ass and pushing race theory lies instead of focusing on failing infrastructure that kills people in condos.
     
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  13. gator_lawyer

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    The condo collapse in Miami wouldn't have been affected by an infrastructure bill.
     
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  14. g8rjd

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    Senate begins floor debate now on C-SPAN2.
     
  15. dadx4

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    How you forget short term history...Pelosi and Schumer refused to do the Infrastructure bill with Trump...but you keep TDSing.
     
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  16. philnotfil

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    Other way around. Pelosi and Mnuchin were still negotiating when Trump pulled the plug. Pelosi was willing to compromise. Trump is the one who walked away.
     
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  17. g8rjd

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    It seems your memory is the challenged one, as you ignore the disaster that Trump was when it came to anything legislative.

    On infrastructure:

    “Trump's sinking approval ratings, his polarizing tweets and his administration's move to block oversight requests from the minority party have further eroded Democrats' appetite to work with the president on one of his chief campaign promises.

    "The president doesn't make it any easier on himself," said Democratic strategist Brad Bannon. "He's going to have a hard time getting Democratic votes."”




    “Infrastructure legislation has long been billed as one of the few things that could receive broad bipartisan support this Congress, with Trump at one point calling Democrats "desperate" for such an initiative.

    But Trump kicked off his infrastructure campaign Monday by announcing a proposal to separate air traffic control from the federal government - one of the most controversial infrastructure ideas floated by the administration so far, and one that was quickly rejected by Democrats.

    "Trump's 'infrastructure week' appears to be little more than a Trojan Horse for undermining workers' wages and handing massive tax breaks to billionaires and corporations," House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said in a statement.

    "Trump's ideas for privatizing Air Traffic Control - which recycle a tired Republican plan that both sides of the aisle have rejected - would hand control of one of our nation's most important public assets to special interests and the big airlines."

    The proposal would transfer the Federal Aviation Administration's (FAA) air traffic control operations to an independent outside agency over three years "at no charge," removing 30,000 FAA employees from the federal payroll. The FAA would still maintain safety oversight.”

    Dems lose appetite for deal with Trump on infrastructure

    It got worse from there.

    Then there was the fact that every Trump “infrastructure week” was just another scandal after another and “infrastructure week” became a bipartisan joke about how Trump couldn’t get anything done on the Hill.

    How ‘Infrastructure Week’ Became a Long-Running Joke (Published 2019)

    How ‘Infrastructure Week’ Became a Long-Running Joke (Published 2019)

    Nevermind that despite all of that, Trump still pulled the plug on any negotiations.

    Master deal maker, indeed.
     
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  18. g8rjd

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    Meanwhile, let’s compare that to Biden’s involvement.



    Shocker which one resulted in Congressional action. Absolute shocker.
     
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  19. VAg8r1

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    Not the first time. Possibly off-topic for this thread Trump has never negotiated in good faith during his four years in office. Two other examples that come immediately to mind, Schumer and Pelosi thought that they had a deal with Trump under which he would support legislation providing permanent protection for DACA recipients in return for funding for his Southern border wall. A day or two after the agreement was announced Trump backed off. More recently McConnell, Schumer, Pelosi and Paul Ryan thought that they had negotiated a deal under which Trump would sign a continuing resolution to keep the government running while budget negotiations continued. Trump backed off less than a day before he was supposed to sign the resolution in a last minute attempt to get funding for his wall resulting in the longest government shutdown in history and costing the economy at least 11 billion dollars.
     
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  20. philnotfil

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    For someone who built a reputation of being a great negotiator, Trump was a terrible negotiator.
     
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