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Discussion in 'Awesome Recruiting' started by doctorg8r, Dec 20, 2023.

  1. Skink

    Skink GC Hall of Fame

    Yep, clueless
  2. Skink

    Skink GC Hall of Fame

    Trying to make sense to him? Good luck with that
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  3. volungator

    volungator All American

    Playing (even starting) a true freshman QB is not unheard of. I say feed him (DJL) the offense slow and steady. Build this young team with and around him.
    IMO this scenario gives us the best chance to move back to the top 15 in 2025. If DJL is as advertised he'll be fine.

    If Mertz is a true team-first guy, he'll understand and mentor DJL while giving us security in knowing we have a backup ready to roll.

    There is NO way we make it past 6 wins next year, so let's rebuild around DJL.
  4. volungator

    volungator All American

    The moderation on this site the past year has been WAY too strict.
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  5. MarineG8R

    MarineG8R GC Hall of Fame

    Nov 19, 2014
    I’m kinda

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  6. scooterp

    scooterp GC Hall of Fame

    Feb 15, 2012
    Miami signed nearly as many 3 star recruits (16) as we did total recruits (18). That was an apples to spoon comparison.
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  7. Gator715

    Gator715 GC Hall of Fame

    Dec 6, 2015
    It's not fair to expect a true freshman to be our savior as a true freshman, but if Napier is on the hot seat going into next season, DJ Lagway is his only hope at this point. He is the sole source of any optimism I have surrounding Gator Football right now.

    I really like Mertz as a QB. I don't care what anybody says, he's excellent. But you can't ask him to carry the team every week. You can ask him to do that maybe once or twice per season, but nowhere close to every game. He simply cannot overcome a bad defense, bad special teams, and a bad running game; most QBs can't. Lagway may or may not, but is it really a risk if we're going to lose anyways albeit at no fault of Mertz?

    The biggest reasons to sit Lagway IMO are:
    1. to give Mertz credit for what he's earned (and he HAS earned his position, I really don't think it's fair to ask much more from him)
    2. To protect Lagway's confidence and development.

    Neither of these reasons are material to winning games next season. And if I'm right, I feel terrible for Mertz because if you inserted him on any Florida team between 2012 and 2016, it would have been not just a good match, but a perfect one. Veteran QB who takes what the defense gives him and barely makes any mistakes. Perfect QB for a team whose strength is the Defense. Unfortunately, that's not us right now.

    However, the calculus changes completely for me if the Florida program sees Napier's make or break period as a two-year plan or more starting 2024. Another thing that would change my opinion is if we see a completely different defense next season.
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  8. Gator715

    Gator715 GC Hall of Fame

    Dec 6, 2015
    If we expect recruiting to reflect where we are rather than where we want to be, we're never going to get better.

    It's okay to say Napier isn't meeting a championship standard right now, even if we're rooting for him. It's different recruiting in the SEC, but I think Florida should shoot for being at least 4th in the conference in recruiting every year. I know the additions of Texas and Oklahoma make it a lot tougher, but we're not going to compete with Alabama or Georgia by recruiting 8th in the conference out of 16 teams.
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  9. murphree_hall

    murphree_hall VIP Member

    Jul 11, 2019
    We are far from 16th in the nation yet we have the 16th rated class. From where we ended this year, would finishing #16 next year not be a significant improvement? In what world does 5-7 UF deserve the top 5 class just because our alumni demand it from Napier? We got the guys where it counts. If DJ becomes what his potential is, we are going to be a problem. Elite QB play fixes a lot of problems.

    Arguably, our class ranking is much higher than #16, because our average rating is much higher. Some other teams are ahead of us because they took more quantity. Regardless, we are recruiting where we need to be (for now) and we can build upon it with more success. It's more important for us right now to land proven transfers than high school recruits, anyway.
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  10. Skink

    Skink GC Hall of Fame

    Mertz will in all likelihood be a better QB as a senior than DJ as a true freshman. But hey, maybe they do like suggested above and work in DJ like they did Tebow as a true freshman
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  11. Gatorchip

    Gatorchip All American

    Feb 3, 2010
    I agree with the initial point, and it seems quite unlikely that Lagway will be starting right away. When it comes to recruiting Gators who truly bleed orange and blue, I've noticed that at least 5 of his recruits transferred out this season. I do appreciate the recruits he brought in this year, and I'm optimistic about their future. The question remains: do the recruits, this time, genuinely bleed orange and blue?
  12. volungator

    volungator All American

    Those that bleed for a team have always been few and far between. With NIL and free agancy (calling it what is) the only kids that will bleed are legacies and even then, some won't.
  13. doctorg8r

    doctorg8r GC Hall of Fame

    Dec 11, 2018
    Actually, the moderators have been extremely tolerant, and there is the option of moving on if one dislikes it!!! There has been WAY TOO MUCH NEGATIVITY and, I for one, frequent less because of it!
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  14. Crusher

    Crusher GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 19, 2007
    They bleed green.
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  15. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 3, 2007
    Why, did you give up drinking on this site?

    However, if you're talking about the moderators... you'll find out that they are more willing to let you spew more dissent than usual... softer moderating.


    Apr 8, 2007
    We could be the 20th best team and still not be ranked due to losses to 6 of 7 teams ranked higher than 20th. Can’t have one of the worst ranked defenses next year if want to improve ranking and win-loss record. Also need fo average more than 28 per game on offense, which may happen if we can stop more teams on D or score more TDs rather than field goals