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If we had beaten Texas A&M and Oklahoma last season...

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by The_RH_Factor, Jul 3, 2021.

  1. CadGator

    CadGator All American

    Nov 17, 2008
    Ormond Beach, Florida
    You forgot every one of the starting receivers opted out of that game AND our defense made every team we played look better than they were!
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  2. SewaneeGator

    SewaneeGator GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 8, 2007
    Early ranking can definitely influence the rest of a team's year and it's playoff chances. But OU dropped two early last year (including a 4-6 KSU) and under a Covid shortened season, really had no case as a top 4. But looking like world beaters in their bowl will definitely stick in the minds of pollsters throughout the upcoming season and may very well earn them some benefit of doubt.
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  3. number1

    number1 Premium Member

    Oct 9, 2011
    They were good, but our defense made them look unstoppable (as they did most offenses in 2020).
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  4. number1

    number1 Premium Member

    Oct 9, 2011
    I didn't forget. The OP asked if our performance in that game changed the perception of both teams. When Mullen mentioned all of the players missing, the media painted it as him making excuses. Our bad defense also gave LSU hope for next season as well.
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  5. Gatorrick22

    Gatorrick22 GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 3, 2007
    We out played...err... talent-ed A&M and LSU, so... That was ALL on our coaching staff... Player/s need to sit if they sandbag... or just suck.
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  6. red4512

    red4512 Premium Member

    Mar 4, 2010
    or throw shoes.
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  7. unclerob

    unclerob Junior

    Aug 14, 2015
    If we had beaten A&M and LSU, we would have been 10-2. Both games could have been won with one more good defensive play. Not just at the end of the game either. There were probably 10 places in the A&M game where the defense could have made the difference with one good play. It would be much easier for the coaching staff to recruit as a 10-2 team instead of an 8-4 team.

    Oklahoma just killed us. That reminded me of playing Nebraska in 1995. Doesn't matter why they killed us.
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  8. The_Graygator

    The_Graygator GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 11, 2007
    Getting reminded by how totally wretched our defense was last year? Ugh.
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  9. DieAGator

    DieAGator GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 3, 2007
    To put this thread in perspective how many other fanbases can say the same, that had they only won two more key games their season would have been so different?
  10. Gatorchip

    Gatorchip All American

    Feb 3, 2010
    But that isn’t the OPs question.
  11. Skink

    Skink GC Hall of Fame

    Good point. Consider that 1 or 2 plays kept us from beating A&M and LSU, and apparently 1 or 2 more series of downs and we beat Bama in the SECCG......that’s what people are saying so think about that... we were that close to making the playoff undefeated .........

    ..... no team comes that close with a defense nearly as horrible as the same people are saying. So what is it? Can’t have it both ways. Maybe the ‘fire Grantham’ crowd ought to STFU and see what happens this season before bringing out the pitchforks and hangin ropes.
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  12. Agator88

    Agator88 GC Legend

    Oct 7, 2014
    Trey Dean int, was the stop we needed, right up to the point he got blind sided and fumbled. Honestly though, how sick would everyone have been if we beat Bama and were left out of the playoff?
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  13. SmootyGator

    SmootyGator GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 17, 2007
    Tampa, Florida
    No way in hell would we have been left out of the playoff had we beaten Bama.
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  14. Distant Gator

    Distant Gator GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 9, 2007
    Upstate, SC
    If that's the case, then the LSU game was meaningless in terms of season goals.
    We were going to the SECCG, win or lose.
    So if beating Bama meant we were in the playoff, but a loss to Bama meant we weren't, then the LSU game had no bearing.

    I still wanted to win, and we still should have won, but if we were going to the playoffs anyway then that puts a whole different spin on things.
  15. TrueGator

    TrueGator GC Hall of Fame

    Nov 11, 2014
    Players opted out left and right. For a team that was based on passing more than any year I can remember here, Trask had virtually no receiving targets at the bowl game. No Grimes, no Pitts, no Toney, no Copeland (COVID), if I recall. I think Rick Wells was the primary receiving weapon. Rick Wells. He was non-existant for his entire career before that. The team deserved to lose that game, and, they did soundly. But, we were definitely impacted by missing players in key areas. Agree that the D was bad, but, they were bad all year, not just that game. We had plenty of depth at receiver and that is the most impactful area that was missing against OU compared to our better-played games.
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  16. Agator88

    Agator88 GC Legend

    Oct 7, 2014
    Who would we have replaced since we had 2 losses and everyone else had 1 or none? Clemson lost without Lawrence on the road, osu undefeated, ND who lost to Clemson in a rematch, Bama?
    We lost to a below 500 team the week before. No other team had that bad a loss on their resume.
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  17. Agator88

    Agator88 GC Legend

    Oct 7, 2014
    Lsu game def meant something, we weren't making the title game with that loss.
  18. gtr2x

    gtr2x GC Hall of Fame

    Aug 21, 2007
    Yep, dont think we would have gotten in, which would have made the lsu loss even more frustrating . Aggies might have snuck in, but I would bet on Bama still backing in to the playoffs even with a loss.
  19. Agator88

    Agator88 GC Legend

    Oct 7, 2014
    Bama would have probably stayed the 1 seed and the talking heads would have said they didn't need the game.
  20. g8orbill

    g8orbill Old Gator Moderator VIP Member

    Apr 3, 2007
    Clermont, Fl
    we made zero effort to beat oklahoma
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