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If it wasn't FSU, would you feel bad for them??

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by uf1998, Dec 5, 2023.

  1. magnafides

    magnafides GC Hall of Fame

    Aug 1, 2009
    South Florida
    Ask an FSU fan how many points they'll give you on a $1k bet on the Orange Bowl. Surely if they're deserving of a Top 4 spot they can wax the #6 ranked team, right? If you're feeling nice you can even offer the bet with no spread at all, and see how many takers you get.
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  2. RayGator

    RayGator Administrator Emeritus Moderator

    Apr 3, 2007
    Lakeland, Florida USA.
    Well, when I was watching the FSU vs Louisville game, sure looked to me officials favored FSU. Often in that game it sure looked like Louisville was going to win it. Officials said no. Wonder how Louisville feels today about that game? Haven’t seen the media discuss that game, have we…..
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  3. TrueGator

    TrueGator GC Hall of Fame

    Nov 11, 2014
    I might. But, it isn't. So, I won't.
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  4. uf1998

    uf1998 Senior

    Aug 19, 2023
    College football is a very different sport from college basketball. In college football the regular season is sacred. It's just 12 games. Wins and losses should matter! They definitely used to.

    In college basketball you do not need to win every game, in fact far from it. You can go 24-7 and that's considered a great season and you'll get a pretty good seed and have a decent chance to make some noise in the tournament.

    College football has the shortest season with the tiniest sample size. Losing a game should matter ESPECIALLY if there are other P5 teams who haven't.

    You bring up Bama's one impressive game but completely omit how they had to slug through so many others. Bad teams like A&M, Arkansas, South Fla, Auburn. Their loss to Texas is forgivable, but it was by double digits and in TUSCALOOSA. That's a quality loss to you?

    In college football if you play two great teams and lose one of them, I'm sorry but that's just not the sign of a really dominant team.
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  5. hhpgator

    hhpgator GC Hall of Fame

    Jun 13, 2017
    No, next topic.
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  6. Distant Gator

    Distant Gator GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 9, 2007
    Upstate, SC
    It's a quality loss because it was to a top 3 opponent, yes.

    How many great teams did FSU play again? The number is zero.
    LSU was the best and they lost to OM.

    And actually going 1-1 against 2 great teams is more impressive than going 0-0 against them.
    Your point about the short season actually works against you.
    It's far easier to go undefeated against a crap schedule in a short season. Far better to play a great schedule.

    Like FSU did in 93. When they lost 1 game and went to the ORange instead of WVU who went undefeated.
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  7. Brodeur

    Brodeur GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 24, 2007
    I feel bad for FSU players. The way the defense played against LVille was impressive, like they truly believed they were playing for a playoff spot. Hats off to them for closing the deal and making them things hard for the committee.

    But I still agree with what the committee did. Criteria is best 4 (with special factors like conf titles weighing in). Liberty is undefeated but we all recognize we shouldn't include them. FSU was the.only top 8 team who didn't play another top 8 team. Not necessarily their fault, they tried to bolster their schedule with two sec OOC opponents. But I don't believe that FSU team, sans Travis, has any chance last weekend against the rest of the top 8.
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  8. recongator

    recongator GC Legend

    Nov 26, 2017
    Watching that sh*tshow Louisville game killed any chance they had of proving they deserved to be in the playoffs. If they were truly a top 4 team they should have stomped a mud hole in Louisville
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  9. ApexNC

    ApexNC GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 8, 2007
    I agree. And other than Tex/Bama, the other teams played other teams vying for the playoffs near the end of the season. If fsu still had Travis or if they were the ones to beat uga and bama beat Louisville, then fsu is in easily. Those two factors along with their struggles against UF and Louisville is what kept them out.
  10. DeBigLeezard

    DeBigLeezard GC Hall of Fame

    Feb 25, 2010
    No Way...
    (Not even gonna waste my breath over this...)
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  11. WestCoastGator

    WestCoastGator GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 12, 2007
  12. DeepPurpleGator

    DeepPurpleGator GC Hall of Fame

    Jun 13, 2007
    I hate FSU, I hate Georgia. But Georgia is the best team not in the playoffs, not FSU.
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  13. 31g8r

    31g8r GC Hall of Fame

    Oct 20, 2013
    You clearly along with the less educated semi’s pumping gas dont understand the meaning of selected. No where is it written that the only criteria is W/Ls. Prior this year that aspect resolved itself. For the non math majors 5 power conferences, 4 spots that is the reason for a selection process. If the top 5 were undefeated the semi’s were still left out as the weakest from the weakest conference this year. They just a weak candidate even w/o a loss in a weak conference. Their traditional model of success fails miserably when examined by a selection committee not sportswriters.

    FTR Liberty U wasnt selected either but both would have been if the acc along with pac and the big10 didnt delay the implementation of the 12 team playoff. This year fsu wasnt worthy of SELECTION based on the team’s season performance and available players moving forward.

    Sucks to be them but that is always the case.
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  14. g8trjax

    g8trjax GC Hall of Fame

    Jun 1, 2007

    Never!! :emoji_joy::emoji_joy:
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  15. uf1998

    uf1998 Senior

    Aug 19, 2023
    I guess we disagree on the whole idea of a "quality loss" in the sport of college football when there's only 12 games and you're only playing maybe two great teams a year. College basketball's 30+ game regular season has ROOM for quality losses. College football shouldn't have room for that.

    This isn't an undefeated Cincinnati or UCF or Boise State. This is a 13-0 P5 champion. Again, say what you want about the ACC but it did go 6-4 vs the SEC.

    I'm just looking at all the data and I'm just not finding any justification for a one loss Bama getting in over them. Not THIS year.

    Saban and the Bama machine are just way too powerful now, and it's killing the sport.
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  16. ajoseph

    ajoseph Premium Member

    Jan 15, 2008
    The answer is self-evident. Who’d be favored to win today:

    FSU v Michigan
    FSU v Washington
    FSU V Texas
    FSU v Bama
    FSU v Georgia (they’re currently a double-digit dog, before opting-outs are considered.
    FSU v Oregon

    Ask yourself whether you would be your money, straight up at a neutral site, on FSU against any of the above teams.

    The rational, objective person would not. FSU was not one of the top 4 best teams at the end of the season.
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  17. toprowgator

    toprowgator All American

    Jun 24, 2019
    Except that the committee had more than two games to watch FSU's offense without Travis. Had Travis been injured in the Louisville game, I believe they would be in the playoffs.
  18. 31g8r

    31g8r GC Hall of Fame

    Oct 20, 2013
    No their overall opponent w/L would still be weakest of the top 6 and under .500 by a good margin
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  19. ufMIB

    ufMIB Premium Member

    Apr 3, 2007
    I don't feel sorry for Liberty, so no, I don't feel sorry for FSU. ACC is garbage football. Louisville was awful, look at their schedule. Look at the majority of their stadiums, small, half empty. It is the minor leagues.
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  20. UF24ou14

    UF24ou14 GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 19, 2009
    They've never at any time this season looked like one of the top 4 teams in the country. As was posted somewhere else, they didn't mind being in the NC game the year they had one loss and West Virginia was undefeated. Hell, their one loss came to a one loss Notre Dame that was left out that year, so no I absolutely don't feel sorry for them, and wouldn't if they weren't fsu.
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