Welcome home, fellow Gator.

The Gator Nation's oldest and most active insider community
Join today!

Hypothetical Grand Bargain

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by l_boy, Jun 10, 2024.

Grand Bargain

  1. Genius! I’m in!

    14 vote(s)
    82.4%
  2. # that. No way. Only a moron would propose this.

    3 vote(s)
    17.6%
  1. l_boy

    l_boy 5500

    12,063
    1,556
    2,868
    Jan 6, 2009
    Both Trump and Biden agree to drop out

    The respective parties nominate their own candidates.

    Biden pardons Trump after different Repubican.

    Biden in clear conscience pardons his son.

    The conventions would be the most interesting in over 40 years.

    you in?
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Optimistic Optimistic x 1
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 1
  2. Contra

    Contra GC Hall of Fame

    1,199
    274
    178
    May 15, 2023
    Yes
     
    • Like Like x 1
  3. docspor

    docspor GC Hall of Fame

    5,013
    1,626
    3,078
    Nov 30, 2010
    I’d take it with replacements randomly picked.
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Funny Funny x 2
    • Agree Agree x 1
  4. gator_lawyer

    gator_lawyer VIP Member

    15,116
    5,280
    3,213
    Oct 30, 2017
    1. It's not happening.
    2. What is Biden pardoning Trump of? He can't pardon him of the 34 felony convictions. They're state crimes.
    3. Yes, I'd happily take an election without Biden or Trump. But again, it's not happening.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Like Like x 1
  5. okeechobee

    okeechobee GC Hall of Fame

    6,367
    750
    278
    Sep 11, 2022
    I won’t go as far to say only a moron would propose this, but I see so many ethical conundrums up front with this proposal. Both candidates are their party nominees, so they should both see it through. The time to drop out would have been before the primaries.

    A pardon of Trump insinuates the charges were valid and not politically motivated from the beginning. The weaponizing of the justice system needs to be addressed, no matter which party you sympathize with.

    And how does Biden pardon his son with a clear conscience? It’s funny, because a guy with Hunter Biden’s background hiding millions of dollars worth of income from the IRS is a pretty big deal.

    This feels like another attempt to rig the election. Just let it play out.
     
    • Funny Funny x 3
    • Like Like x 2
  6. G8tas

    G8tas GC Hall of Fame

    3,434
    698
    403
    Sep 22, 2008
    The funny part is of certain group of people think that the department of Justice being weaponized when really all their doing is attempting to ignore the crimes of a career fraudster
     
    • Agree Agree x 3
    • Like Like x 1
    • Disagree Bacon! Disagree Bacon! x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  7. okeechobee

    okeechobee GC Hall of Fame

    6,367
    750
    278
    Sep 11, 2022
    “It looks like Biden is going to lose, so we should switch out the candidates.”
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  8. gatorpa

    gatorpa GC Hall of Fame

    10,248
    820
    698
    Sep 5, 2010
    East Coast of FL
    100%.

    Don’t even need to throw in the pardons.
    Who cares if they did the crime pay the price.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  9. Trickster

    Trickster VIP Member

    9,433
    2,318
    3,233
    Sep 20, 2014
    Congratulations, you got all the Fox talking points down! The giveaway was calling the justice system "weaponized". I don't recall that vacuous term ever being used when Bill Barr was AG!
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  10. AndyGator

    AndyGator VIP Member

    3,389
    322
    338
    Apr 10, 2007
    and 4. It's not happening.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  11. danmanne65

    danmanne65 GC Hall of Fame

    3,333
    667
    243
    Jul 2, 2022
    DeLand
    Picked by lot like they did in the beginning.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  12. tilly

    tilly Superhero Mod. Fast witted. Bulletproof posts. Moderator VIP Member

    You know that dog that knocks the ball down the steps into one of two buckets, to pick the Super Bowl winner?

    Yeah. I'd take him doing that over what we have now.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • Wish I would have said that Wish I would have said that x 1
  13. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

    28,479
    1,642
    1,968
    Apr 19, 2007
    I would like an ice cream cone as part of this bargain
     
    • Funny Funny x 4
    • Like Like x 1
  14. GatorNorth

    GatorNorth Premium Member Premium Member

    16,525
    7,878
    3,203
    Apr 3, 2007
    Atlanta
    Both parties had 4 years to avoid this upcoming disaster and elected to not change a thing. Shame on them.

    We deserve what we get. A 78 year old narcissistic, lying, amoral grifter vs a failing 81 year old career politician who has more often than not been on the wrong side of foreign policy issues over his 50 years in office, and may often not know whether it’s Tuesday or Friday.

    Go team!!
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  15. sierragator

    sierragator GC Hall of Fame

    14,243
    13,022
    1,853
    Apr 8, 2007
    With any luck another four years to pick viable candidates for 2028. That said, even if Trump loses in 24, that wing of the party is calling the shots for the foreseeable future. Wishful thinking to suppose the gop will " come to it's senses" and return to anything resembling the pre Trump gop.
    The D party obviously has challenges to post Biden, if they can prevent the good from being the enemy of the perfect.
     
  16. enviroGator

    enviroGator GC Hall of Fame

    4,758
    541
    368
    Apr 12, 2007
    I hate posts like this because it pushes the "they are both bad" argument.

    Trump is bad. Hitler like bad.

    Biden is at worst "Meh" and likely will go down in history as a very effective president. Yes he is old, oh well. But he is also very experienced. Senator for years, VP, and current President.
     
    • Funny Funny x 3
    • Disagree Bacon! Disagree Bacon! x 2
    • Come On Man Come On Man x 2
    • Best Post Ever Best Post Ever x 2
  17. wgbgator

    wgbgator Premium Member

    28,479
    1,642
    1,968
    Apr 19, 2007
    If he loses reelection I don't think he'll go down in history as an effective president (whatever that means) - he will be RBG part II, another example of liberal hubris. He probably would have been remembered better if he'd called it quits after 4 years and stepped aside for younger blood.
     
  18. Gator515151

    Gator515151 GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 4, 2007
    Even if the so called crimes are legit you have to admit they would have never been prosecuted if not for political reasons. Total BS on the part of everyone involved.
     
    • Winner Winner x 2
  19. gatordavisl

    gatordavisl VIP Member

    30,539
    54,584
    3,753
    Apr 8, 2007
    northern MN
    You have this backward. If the legit crimes were not prosecuted, it would have been purely for political reasons.
     
    • Disagree Bacon! Disagree Bacon! x 1
  20. Gator515151

    Gator515151 GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 4, 2007
    Better be careful there, a certain poster with the letters JMDZ in his name might come along and get after you about your spelling, punctuation and grammar.
     
    • Funny Funny x 1