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Hudson- ya gotta come back.

Discussion in 'Nuttin' but Net' started by akaGatorhoops, Apr 20, 2018.

  1. your_perfect_enemy

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    Definitely agree he didn't fit in school. He looks like he's pretty efficient but not getting a lot of time - 60+% shooting and 10 ppg 6 rpg and 1 block in only 17 minutes. I wonder if he still has conditioning issues? Also good to see it looks like he's not fouling as much, just under 2 a game
     
  2. Efawcett7

    Efawcett7 Eric Fawcett GC Columnist VIP Member

    Definitely, when I mentioned he was doing well I am more referring to the fact that he is a solid role player at the G League level after being ineffective at the college level. For him to go to the next level and be a decent player after really struggling in college I think he's done well for himself.
     
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  3. akaGatorhoops

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    On the subject of Chris Walker.... I don’t think I have ever seen a player have such little resemblance to the hype, game tapes, ratings and expectations.
    I don’t know how this is the same player who arrived at UF....

     
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  4. Noah_Brindise

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    College is the first time where guys like him can't rely solely on their absurd athleticism. He needed to be working on pure basketball skills and conditioning for a long time before college. Not a lot of great coaching day in and day out in Bonifay, FL.
     
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  5. Efawcett7

    Efawcett7 Eric Fawcett GC Columnist VIP Member

    He was left over right chomping to start this mix tape so maybe we should have realized he wasn't going to fit in!

    But in all seriousness, you nailed it when you said he doesn't look at all in this video like he did at Florida. In high school he was handling the ball full court and taking guys off the dribble (he couldn't handle the ball at all without losing it in college), using post moves (we never saw that footwork), and was shooting the ball smoothly (couldn't hit the ocean). If you showed me this video with a blurred out face I don't think I would have recognized it as Chris Walker. It's a shame, for both him and florida, that he wasn't able to translate these skills.
     
  6. rserina

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    "Getting his name called" is irrelevant at this stage. Unless you are a first-round pick with guaranteed money, it doesn't matter if you are second round or undrafted. The big thing is starting to play ball full time. Hudson is not getting any younger.
     
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  7. akaGatorhoops

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    True.
    Though I actually think he could improve his game (especially defensively) and his future by returning.
    Also, I am presuming... maybe incorrectly... that Jalen doesn’t just want to play full time, but would be leaving for an NBA career.
     
  8. jeffphillips21

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    I just mentioned this on another thread - I can't find him listed in the top 2 rounds on any recent NBA draft sites. He was as high as top 40-50 as recently as Jan, but not since. It's a crowded/loaded draft class this year...so unless he blows up at tryouts/combines/private sessions, he's coming back next year

    If he doesn't want to be in college anymore and focus on basketball full-time then not much we can do....but I think another year in college will do him some good. He's considered by some "experts" to be a late-bloomer and only recently hitting jump shots with any consistency, so to come back and show he can do it again - and even improve - will definitely help his draft status for 2019 when it's likely a less-stacked draft year. Looks like his jump to the NBA is not happening this year.
     
  9. antny

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    How was that the same guy????

    Regardless of competition he never looked comfortable with the ball while at Florida.
     
  10. jeffphillips21

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    Is this recent? I can't find him listed anywhere on espn draft rankings (or any other recent site for that matter)
     
  11. jeffphillips21

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    Ridiculous raw athleticism, but his game didn't transition well to college and lost his mojo. Work ethic not there either. Sometimes the best raw talents flame out. He went in a puff of smoke.
     
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  12. GatorPlanet

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    I actually think that Chris Walker would have become a star at UF if he'd stayed. He was unpolished and raw in his skill set, a sign of horrendous high school coaching, but his athleticism was freakish. A couple more years with BD and he'd have become a beast.
     
  13. tc7

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    At 22 years old, he would have to have a very very special season for his draft stock to go up. Very few upper classman go in the 1st round these days. Not to mention he probably has his degree after being that this is his 4th year of school. I hope he comes back but if he could cost himself a year of making money to play basketball if he does.
     
  14. cincinnatigator

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    He'd be giving up a year's salary but G leaguers earn as much as your normal college graduate. The potential reward outweighs the risk.
     
  15. rserina

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    He will likely make more money overseas than straddling the line of a NBA roster, but the main point here is you can only improve so much with more time in class/studying than on the basketball court.
     
  16. ReggieNelson

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    buddy hield improved his stock dramatically from Jr to Sr year
     
  17. ThePlayer

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    It came from an April 13th article from Jonathan Givony with ESPN
     
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    ESPN Draft Rankings: Top 100

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    1. Deandre Ayton C Arizona 19.6 7-0 7-5
    2. Luka Doncic PG Real Madrid 19.0 6-8 N/A
    3. Jaren Jackson Jr. PF/C Michigan St 18.4 6-11 7-4
    4. Marvin Bagley III PF/C Duke 18.9 6-11 7-0½
    5. Mohamed Bamba C Texas 19.8 7-0 7-9
    6. Wendell Carter Jr. C Duke 18.9 6-10 7-3
    7. Michael Porter Jr. SF/PF Missouri 19.6 6-10 7-0
    8. Trae Young PG Oklahoma 19.4 6-2 6-4
    9. Collin Sexton PG Alabama 19.1 6-2 6-7
    10. Mikal Bridges SF Villanova 21.5 6-7 7-2
    11. Miles Bridges SF/PF Michigan St 19.9 6-6 6-9
    12. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander PG/SG Kentucky 19.6 6-6 7-0
    13. Robert Williams C Texas A&M 20.4 6-10 7-5½
    14. Kevin Knox SF/PF Kentucky 18.6 6-9 7-0
    15. Lonnie Walker IV SG Miami FL 19.2 6-4 6-10½
    16. Mitchell Robinson C N/A 19.9 6-11 7-4
    17. Zhaire Smith SF Texas Tech 18.8 6-5 N/A
    18. De'Andre Hunter PF Virginia 20.3 6-8 7-2
    19. Keita Bates-Diop PF Ohio St 22.1 6-7 N/A
    20. Aaron Holiday PG UCLA 21.5 6-1 6-6
    21. Troy Brown SG Oregon 18.6 6-7 6-8
    22. Dzanan Musa SF Cedevita 18.9 6-9 6-8½
    23. Khyri Thomas SG Creighton 21.9 6-3 N/A
    24. Jacob Evans SG/SF Cincinnati 20.7 6-6 N/A
    25. Anfernee Simons SG Team Breakdown 18.8 6-4 6-7
    26. Chandler Hutchison SG/SF Boise St 21.9 6-7 N/A
    27. De'Anthony Melton PG/SG USC 19.8 6-3 6-8
    28. Tyus Battle SG/SF Syracuse 20.5 6-7 6-8
    29. Bruce Brown SG Miami FL 21.6 6-3 6-8½
    30. Moritz Wagner C Michigan 20.9 6-11 7-0
    31. Melvin Frazier SF Tulane 21.6 6-6 6-8
    32. Grayson Allen SG Duke 22.5 6-4 6-6½
    33. Donte DiVincenzo PG Villanova 21.2 6-5 6-5
    34. Shake Milton PG/SG SMU 21.5 6-6 7-0
    35. Hamidou Diallo SG Kentucky 19.7 6-5 7-0
    36. Jontay Porter C Missouri 18.4 6-10 7-0
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    41. Justin Jackson SF/PF Maryland 21.1 6-7 7-3
    42. Rodions Kurucs SF/PF Barcelona 2 20.1 6-10 N/A
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    44. Devonte' Graham PG Kansas 23.1 6-2 N/A
    45. Jevon Carter PG West Virginia 22.5 6-2 6-3

    46. Jalen Hudson SG Florida 21.9 6-5 N/A :rolleyes:
    47. Malik Newman PG/SG Kansas 21.1 6-4 6-6
    48. Tony Carr PG Penn St 20.5 6-3 6-8
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    52. Josh Okogie SG Georgia Tech 19.6 6-4 7-0
    53. Gary Trent SG Duke 19.2 6-5 6-8½
    54. Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk SG Kansas 20.8 6-8 6-5
    55. Jarrey Foster SG SMU 21.3 6-6 N/A
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    57. Isaac Bonga SF Frankfurt 18.4 6-9 7-0
    58. Ray Spalding PF Louisville 21.1 6-10 7-1
    59. Gary Clark PF Cincinnati 23.4 6-7 6-10
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    61. Rawle Alkins SG Arizona 20.4 6-5 6-9
    62. Shamorie Ponds PG St. John's 19.8 6-1 6-3
    63. Sagaba Konate C West Virginia 20.5 6-8 N/A
    64. Jarred Vanderbilt SF Kentucky 19.0 6-8 7-1
    65. Kerwin Roach SG Texas 21.4 6-3 N/A
    66. Goga Bitadze C Mega Bemax 18.7 6-11 7-2
    67. DJ Hogg SF/PF Texas A&M 21.6 6-9 6-10½
    68. Kris Wilkes SF/PF UCLA 19.5 6-7 6-11
    69. Carsen Edwards PG Purdue 20.0 6-0 6-5
    70. Issuf Sanon PG/SG Olimpija Ljubljana 18.4 6-4 N/A
    71. Lindell Wigginton PG Iowa St 20.0 6-2 6-3½
    72. Tadas Sedekerskis SF Nevezis 20.2 6-10 6-9½
    73. Karim Jallow SF Bayern Muenchen 21.0 6-7 6-8
    74. Vincent Edwards SF/PF Purdue 22.0 6-8 7-0
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    84. Aric Holman PF Mississippi St. 20.7 6-10 N/A
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    92. William McDowell-White PG Bamberg 20.0 6-5 6-5
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    94. Ethan Happ PF/C Wisconsin 21.9 6-10 N/A
    95. Laurynas Birutis C Siauliai 20.6 7-1 7-2
    96. Matur Maker C Team Loaded VA 20.2 6-10 7-2
    97. Isaac Haas C Purdue 22.5 7-2 7-4
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    99. Maximo Fjellerup SF/PF Bahia Blanca 20.3 6-7 N/A
    100. Vanja Marinkovic SG Partizan 21.2 6-7
     
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  19. INGATORSWETRUST

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    Rankings will change considerably based on those entering draft, those returning to school, and international players that choose to make themselves available. If Hudson prioritized playing great defense, he is athletic enough to make a NBA roster and get some backup minutes. Defensive effort and intensity is what can get you a roster spot at end of bench
     
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  20. BLING

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    Yeah it was shocking. I was sure he'd be a superstar.

    Obviously the academic thing set him back in year 1, when he got on the court you could see he wasn't ready. His athleticism didn't matter because he was literally getting tossed around like a rag doll.

    But even after seeing that "preview" in year one, I thought with a full offseason he'd come back and be a monster once he adjusted. If nothing else he should have been a rebounding and dunking machine.
     
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