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How messed up is our healthcare system?

Discussion in 'GatorNana's Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by oragator1, Feb 17, 2020.

  1. oragator1

    oragator1 Premium Member

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    This was covered by John Oliver last night, I had to look it up because I couldn’t believe it was real.

    A healthcare provider in Utah actually pays for plane tickets and overnight stay, along with transportation, for their clients to fly to Mexico to get certain drugs filled. It’s not on this site, but they reportedly will give you $500 too.

    Pehp - Pharmacy Tourism Program

    seriously, this is where we are as a country.
     
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  2. gatorknights

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    There may be health involved, but not a whole lot of care. "Sorry for your loss Mr. GK, but now we cancelled your coverage and give us the deed to your house". :mad:

    I'm only "slightly" exaggerating. :(
     
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  3. channingcrowderhungry

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    The countries in green provide free, universal healthcare. But at least we are in good company with the likes of Somalia.... 600px-Universal_Healthcare_by_Country_20191229.svg.jpg
     
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  4. gatorknights

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    And a few other third world countries as well. MAGA baby!
     
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  5. citygator

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    Compare quality of care. We aren’t only good health system.
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  6. WarDamnGator

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    Remember when Trump called Haiti and African Nations "Shithole countries" ... guess who US is par with ....
     
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  7. homer

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    Nothing is free, but I get your point.

    Healthcare in the US has sucked for years.

    Fortunately, I worked where healthcare insurance benefits were good.
     
  8. Gator515151

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    Then why don't you move to one of those countries? Just askin. Might I suggest China, they seem to be doing all the right things.
     
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  9. channingcrowderhungry

    channingcrowderhungry Premium Member

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    Fair point on the free part
     
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  10. channingcrowderhungry

    channingcrowderhungry Premium Member

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    Because I really get my kicks watching 500,000 families declare bankruptcy annually from health bills. And I would have to do that from afar if I moved.
     
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  11. VAg8r1

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    A prime example of American exceptionalism in healthcare
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...b23306-c807-11e9-be05-f76ac4ec618c_story.html
    A family living in virtually every other advanced industrial country will never have to worry about losing their home over unpaid medical bills.

    In Canada on the other hand.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...71c78e-d4d6-11e9-9610-fb56c5522e1c_story.html
    The Canadian system is far from perfect (longer waiting times and higher taxes) but no one in Canada will be forced into the American healthcare system version of your money or your life.

    Personally my wife and I are in a good place in terms of medical insurance. We're both covered by Medicare and a Medicare advantage plan largely covered by my former employer. Last year my wife had surgery to remove a meningioma (type of benign brain tumor). The out of pocket cost was a $150 copay on a $40,000 plus bill. A lot of Americans aren't that lucky.
     
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  12. WarDamnGator

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    Republicans always have such great ideas when it comes to health care ... this post is just another classic example of what happens when Republicans put on their thinking caps.
     
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  13. gator_fever

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    Those drug companies raping Americans need to stop. Congress needs to act
     
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  14. channingcrowderhungry

    channingcrowderhungry Premium Member

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    Well, when they haven't proposed meaningful legislation or ideas on the subject in decades, they are left to such clever retorts as "well, if you don't like it, leave"
     
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  15. gator_fever

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    Trump has some good ideas to change some of this but the Dems seem to want to delay to boost profits longer for drug companies etc. These other countries need to pull their weight also and not get cheap rides at our expense.
     
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  16. gator_lawyer

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    You and the rest of the people who oppose universal healthcare are welcome to leave. I hear Somalia is nice this time of year.
     
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  17. sierragator

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    It is not a healthcare system, it is a healthcare profit system. A bit of a catch 22 for Americans as many of our 401k's etc are invested in big pharma, insurance companies etc etc etc.....
     
  18. gatordavisl

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    Thank God we, as Americans, are afforded the freedom to express our feelings about many things, including the quality of life in America, as compared with that in other nations. Per your suggestion, those who seek a higher quality of life than that found in other nations, would be expelled. Do you genuinely prefer a dictatorship?
     
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  19. ThePlayer

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    Thank Obama baby!
    He turned our country into a nation of part-time workers with high student loan debt.
    And if you want to stand in line for rationed care, move to Canada for 3/4 less healthcare quality.
    Or try the UK...they don't care if you have proper teeth to eat with.

    Canadians Are One In A Million -- While Waiting For Medical Treatment

    Thousands more patients made to 'beg for treatment' as NHS rations hip operations
     
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  20. gatorknights

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    Oh I don't know, most of my friends and family have full time jobs and are not buried in student loan debt. Tell Rush I said congratulations on the medal of biggest liar ever.
     
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