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Head Coach or Head Coach & OC

Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by GatorLuke, Oct 13, 2021.

  1. GatorLuke

    GatorLuke GC Legend

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    That is definitely a great argument. History is against the dual role head coach.
     
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  2. gatorgeezer

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    think it worked for some guy named spurrier
     
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  3. VAg8r1

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    Agree. SOS was the Head Coach and effectively the OC and the quarterback coach.
     
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  4. Matthanuf06

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    True.

    And as another poster mentioned if you took away play calling maybe Mullen gets better at the other things. However I don’t see him improving with something like recruiting if he doesn’t call plays. Heck, not calling plays may hurt with recruiting
     
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  5. GatorLuke

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    Yes he would be an outlier with 5 SEC titles and 1 natty 90 - 01. The last 20 years there is only 1 other with a natty. Jimbo also won 3 conference titles between 2010-2017.
    lol you can’t read. Last 20 years I said. The game has changed as has college sports. You think I don’t know Spurrier had 5 SEC Championships and 1 natty from 90-01? The point is the vast majority of successful programs over the last 20 years are only head coaches. Feel free to prove that is incorrect. Over the last 20 years only 5% of the natties are from head coaches who are also a coordinator.
     
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  6. KronoGator

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    Spurrier even said in his book that he didn't think the head coach calling plays works in football these days.
     
  7. gatorgeezer

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    I agree Mullen needs to get his nose out of his laminate play sheet and see what's happening on the field
     
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  8. filamg8torfan

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    You're wrong. OBC had 7 SEC titles and 1 natty at UF.
     
  9. Wanne15

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    Or you might could say that only 5% of head coaches are good enough coordinators to win at the highest level. Most, like Urban need help with the X’s and O’s. I believe great coaches adapt with the times like Saban has done. The old obsolete Brady keeps winning with no legs too.
     
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  10. phideltgator

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    How can you express yourself as a bad ass perfectionist coach with no screw up exceptions during the entire game if your drifting around with further responsibilities like calling the offense? This duel ego perception could be confusing to the kids looking up to him.
     
  11. bullish

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    Dan needs better special teams, do we ever get a long return, puts or kickoffs, no. We don’t have elite returners like Brandon James. Do we ever get blocks on Field golds or punts, no. Seems like objective review should be able to work on these things, but no and don’t ask Dan.
    defensive play, prevent style secondary is the norm now at Florida, we can do better, whether getting better secondary coaches or replacing the DC, even though we seemed to be gettin better this year. On offense we need to be balanced but our passing attack needs work. Route running and getting open like Georgia’s little Caucasian flying down the field wide open would be nice and a QB that can lay it in dead on the run. Things to work on. We have some work to do to win National championships. Hopefully we roar the next two games!
     
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  12. lerxst6

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    Some people didn’t think Spurrier would win an NC without an OC.

    Other successful coaches have gone back and forth on calling plays - Richt comes to mind.

    Our inconsistency this year makes me think that Brian J was a lot more important to the overall staff than I thought.
     
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  13. GameTime1

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    possibly. But I think it was more Trask.
     
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  14. eightiesgator

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    Seven titles on the field. The 1990 title doesn't count to the pinheads of the SEC. It (and the titles in 1984 and 1985) counts for me...

    But SOS may be right in saying it isn't advisable today. At USCe, his offenses were generally ranked in the 70s and 80s, while his defenses were superb, ranked in the teens or single digits...
     
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