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Hamas Leader smoked

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by l_boy, Jul 31, 2024.

  1. cocodrilo

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    What the hell is that supposed to mean?

    Coming from you, never mind.
     
  2. ajoseph

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    Not sure how accurate this is, but it is being reported that the missile attack came from inside Iran, not from an air strike.

     
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  3. phatGator

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    If Joe was involved in the Hamas killing, we need to call this “targeted killing” and not an “assassination.” Executive order 12333 says:

    2.11Prohibition on Assassination. No person employed by or acting on behalf of the United States Government shall engage in, or conspire to engage in, assassination.”

    Of course, Joe is now protected by the newly established unqualified immunity. :D

    Which brings up an interesting question for another thread, does the unqualified immunity apply to international law?
     
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  4. slocala

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    More importantly, why did Israel wait until he was in Iran? Qatar has been threading the needle of diplomacy. Iran will wage a war, which likely leads to US aerial firepower and US boots on the ground. This didn’t end well for us in Iraq. Won’t end well for anyone in Iran.
     
  5. okeechobee

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    I thought about the same question regarding Qatar. My guess is Israel didn't want to ruffle any feathers in Qatar by carrying out a missile strike, which makes sense. They don't care how much it offends the Iranians to unleash the strike there. I would surmise he was actually safer in Qatar than in Iran, given Qatar's interest in providing him security. More importantly, I think the strike is more symbolic done inside Iran and sends a message that Israel can hit Iran with impunity and take out prestige targets there with relative ease.
     
  6. cluckugator

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    Because Qatar’s official government stance is not for the destruction of Israel and they are not providing weapons, funding, training and intelligence to attack Israel’s homeland.
     
  7. ajoseph

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    Here’s a nice summary of recent events:

     
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  8. OklahomaGator

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    That's what I would put out if I was Iran wanting to cover up for the poor performance by their air force and air defense systems.
     
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  9. G8trGr8t

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    felt safe in Iran at official ceremony...oops
     
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  10. citygator

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    Seems like this would set hostage release negotiations back... but maybe they have written off getting them back?
     
  11. slocala

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    Right, which inherently points to a Qatar and Egypt power weakness. The action undermines the entire legitimacy of Qatar and Egypt trying to get to a cease fire. US State department not knowing about it further exacerbates the issue. This may signal that peace is not an option. It was disappointing that members of Congress can’t listen and walk out or don’t attend Netanyahu’s address. Listening respectfully doesn’t mean you condone or agree.

    IMO there is no middle ground. Israel has every right to eradicate the idea of Hamas and Hezbollah. Terrorist can’t go unpunished.
     
  12. G8trGr8t

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    Or maybe they don't want the war to end
     
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  13. G8trGr8t

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    or it was a local assassination. you normally always see a post explosion image of the "scene of the crime" to enflame outrage
     
  14. G8trGr8t

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    was it Israel? a false flag to enflame war?
     
  15. ajoseph

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    It appears that it the missile was fired close to the target:

     
  16. cocodrilo

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    The Hezbollah leader was in Beirut, not Iran.
     
  17. okeechobee

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    Fuad Shukr, a senior Hezbollah commander and target of an Israeli strike on Beirut, was said to be a close adviser to the group’s leader and someone wanted by the U.S. government for his role in a 1983 bombing attack that killed roughly 300 American and French soldiers in Beirut.

    The State Department has posted a bounty of up to $5 million for information on Mr. Shukr’s location after the 1983 attack on the barracks in Beirut where American and French soldiers were stationed.

    Mr. Shukr’s history with Hezbollah goes back decades. He played a key role in several of the group’s major milestones, said Matthew Levitt, an expert on Hezbollah at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.

    Who Is Fuad Shukr, Target of the Israeli Strike on Beirut?
     
  18. okeechobee

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    "Citing Iranian sources"... I'd take that with a grain of salt. Iran's air defense systems are compromised. They don't want to admit it publicly.
     
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  19. cluckugator

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    I wouldn’t put it past Iran to martyr someone to create outrage, but they also have every incentive to hide how effective Israel’s capabilities to cause death and destruction in Iran are.

    Your post in #52 is the more likely explanation as Netanyahu kinda directly said that after this attack. He doesn’t care about internal or external push back and wants to wipe Hamas out.

    Yeah, it sucks for Qatar. They seem to genuinely want peace and prosperity in the region and are trying their best. The actions of their government during the U.S. withdraw from Afghanistan were nothing short of heroic saving tens of thousands of life’s during that international debacle. This makes them look weak when they are trying to play the impossible role of peace keeper in that region.
     
  20. okeechobee

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    Kamala Harris declined to attend. Let that sink in.