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Half of those treated(600K) by NYC Care are illegal aliens

Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by g8orbill, Jul 20, 2019.

  1. g8orbill

    g8orbill Old Gator VIP Member

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  2. citygator

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    Pretty sure the point is to move uninsured out of emergency rooms and into clinics per the article. Is there a better idea that more workable? Let me guess... we should just step over the bodies on the way into OUR hospitals? :rolleyes:
     
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  3. RealGatorFan

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    It's not insured but undocumented immigrants. 300,000 undocumented. No wonder NYC decided to allow driver's licenses to undocumented. That's 300,000 new voters voting for the party that gave them free stuff (at the expense of actual citizens). Screw the senior citizens, they'll pay the extra 44% property taxes or drop dead.
     
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  4. GatorJMDZ

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    *****Except, apparently, if you are an undocumented alien. Oh, the irony.
     
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  5. nolancarey

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    Even if illegal immigrants were voting (which they are not), how does it move the ticker in heavily Democrat NYC? Undocumented aren't likely moving to the red areas of the state.
     
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  6. rivergator

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    Keep throwing facts into the discussion and you're headed for a timeout! ;)
     
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  7. g8orbill

    g8orbill Old Gator VIP Member

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    there is no doubt in my mind illegals vote in blue states and possibly in red states that do not require voter ID- the whole reason the dems do not want the citizenship question asked is so they can distort the numbers for the electoral college
     
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  8. VAg8r1

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    Somewhat off-topic for this thread, illegals do not vote. In the rare cases in which non-citizens have illegally voted, they're virtually always legal immigrants with green cards who mistakenly assumed that their legal status gave them the right to vote. The problem with the citizenship question is that it would have a chilling effect on households containing non-citizens. As was pointed out numerous times in multiple other threads on the subject the census is intended to count all people not just US citizens. As far as the subject of the thread is concerned, compassion aside, would we would be better off if illegals with communicable diseases went untreated, especially considering that they are employed in occupations such as washing dishes and busing tables in restaurants or caring for the elderly and disabled in nursing homes.
     
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  9. rivergator

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    And despite conservatives putting so much effort over the past 10 or 15 years, they can't seem to find it. Instead, they have to keep making to proof-less claims.
    Why do you think that is?
     
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  10. nolancarey

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    There is no doubt in my mind that ICE officials all wear white hoods and light crosses on fire. What do I base this on? Well, it's because the quoted post teaches me that we get to make things up and pass absurdity off as something plausible.
     
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  11. defensewinschampionships

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    It would not surprise me if small numbers voted in every state that does not require voter id. But not to the numbers that would make any kind of difference
     
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  12. madgator

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    That's a Bingo!

    How fun!
     
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  13. mdgator05

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    And yet, nobody seems to be able to show it. Millions of votes according to Trump. And no ability to show it. And every time they try to show it, it ends up blowing up in the faces of the people making the claim (see Texas' recent attempt).

    BTW, the census is a count of all people, citizen or not, so that doesn't distort anything.
     
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  14. mdgator05

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    Wait, you don't know how EC votes are allocated either? Wow...
     
  15. madgator

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    I know exactly how they are allocated.....but lets see your example of the phenomena being discussed on another thread The Dangerous Democratic Politics of Distortion
     
  16. mdgator05

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    So then how was what he said correct? He said they were distorting the electoral college votes by not allowing the citizenship question. How, given the fact that non-citizens are given equal representation?
     
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  17. Gatorrick22

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    I'm pretty sure there is another option that you're skipping... ;)
     
  18. channingcrowderhungry

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    Oh good. We hadn't had a voter fraud discussion in a few weeks. I'll tell you how this one plays out. Republicans claim it is a major issue yet can't provide any proof. Saved everyone a bunch of time.
     
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  19. madgator

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    In everyway imaginable

    because the electoral college voters are based on the POPULATION of the state not the amount of registered voters and certainly not on voter turnout.

    U. S. Electoral College, Official - What is the Electoral College?
    As it now operates: Each State is allocated a number of Electors equal to the number of its U.S. Senators (always 2) plus the number of its U.S. Representatives (which may change each decade according to the size of each State's population as determined in the Census).

    So it's not about illegals actually voting it's about counting them as citizens of the state....which they are not
     
  20. mdgator05

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    A. You can't be a "citizen" of a state. You are a resident of a state. You are a "citizen" of the country.
    B. How is allocating votes based on the Constitution, which gives equal representation to non-citizens, distorting?

    You are aware of the fact that non-citizens are counted for representation equally, aren't you?
     
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