Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by gatorplank, Apr 20, 2021.
Like it's read in a vacuum...
They're not *protesting*--they're demonstrating--solidarity.
Kinda' like all y'all white SJW's taking to the streets, and self-flagellating for BLM.
I take wgb’s point. I feel like the embargo is likely giving the Cuban government cover, as they can blame all economic suffering on the embargo.
If they are going to stick to central planning, it’s unlikely that lifting the embargo would actually solve their economic problems, so lifting the embargo would have a chance to aid the fight.
Worse than dumbassery. It’s pure anti-rule of law dictator stuff, exactly what the right constantly claims to be fighting against.
Burning and/or looting buildings was already illegal. DeSantis thought blocking traffic was a serious enough offense to warrant possible legal punishments. It seems like that law is being inconsistently applied based on cause. And your handwaving doesn't change that.
Its called prosecutorial discretion, and it fuels the CJ system. The criminal code is intentionally written broadly to avoid authorizing criminal activity through technical loopholes, and empowering prosecuting authority with discretion.
If we (society) tried to prosecute all activity that meets the elements of a crime, the CJS would grind to a screetching halt.
We trust cops enough to carry guns...we also trust them to decide when to enforce the law...and prosecutors as back up (like when so many declared they would not prosecute George Floyd rioters...).
Sure, but we're not placing our stamp of approval on the abuse/oppression.
Also Cuba has for decades seized foreign business assets under bogus pretenses. Its their go to MO.
The embargo is actually largely in place to protect American business AND tourists (secondarily to influence change).
It is who they are.
So you were okay with the decisions that those prosecutors made as well? You sure you didn't go on rants about that on here?
I understand and respect the authoity entrusted to their office, so in that sense, certainly.
(Doesnt mean i necessarily approve--in some cases was more appropriate than in others--and i dont think id have done the same in their position, but yeah, i was 'ok' with it--it's their job, and they discharged their duties as they saw fit...).
Well, there is a lot of dancing there to avoid a straight answer on that question. However, I'll ask another question: should the government get to decide which causes are worthy of violating the law to protest?
They always have had that authority. That's what i just got done explaining.
RD's law was an attempt to shore up loopholes, and provide clarity to the distinction bt rioting and peaceful protesting.
....and the fact is, the law does not distinguish bt causes, but bt activities.
If the Cuban American demonstrators start burning shit down and destroying shit...law enforcement will be expressly authorized to arrest quite liberally.
Any one arrested for blocking trsffic after celebrsting the lightning stanley cup?
Guess law enforcement didnt feel impelled to enforce that law in that situation...
Shocking...cops exercising discretion!
And these protests engaged in activities specifically outlined as illegal. They chose not to enforce...apparently based on the cause.
Did anybody block roads after that outside of areas that were permitted for the crowd to exit after the game?
...as they did in the wake of George Floyd protests/riots.
So I guess your boogey man ain't nut'n but a scare crow.
So what are your thoughts on this statement, then?
Gov. DeSantis threatens to remove cases from prosecutors who balk at his new anti-riot law | Florida Phoenix
So he is willing to pull cases away from prosecutors for discretion when the context is BLM but now the shield is that local prosecutors should have full discretion? And you are arguing that it is equal treatment under the law?
The idea that the government would apply the law based on the content of the speech is one of the many points made as to why it's unconstitutional. The fact that DeSantis is confirming that only demonstrates how flagrant of an attack on free speech this is. Unfortunately, too few "conservatives" have the principles to stand up for the Constitution when it is politically inconvenient.
It's yet another example of why DeSantis is both unfit for higher office and unfit for four more years running the state. He is either apathetic to or, worse, antipathetic to the Constitution.
The bill signed by your Dear Leader DeSantis prohibits blocking traffic in Florida, sir.
As Randy Fine, co-sponsor of the bill eloquently stated: “Blocking traffic intentionally is a violent act and puts people lives at risk," he said.
Gov. DeSantis signs Florida's controversial 'anti-riot bill' into law
These Cuban protesters are intentionally blocking traffic, sir. Why are you defending people breaking the new law, sir?
I dont agree with it, but I dont begrudge him it either. He's charged with maintainig law n order in FLA. He seems to think BLM activity threatens his ability to discharge those duties, and seeks to take control...
Cest la vie.