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Georgia with 7 5 stars....

Discussion in 'Awesome Recruiting' started by Endless Excuses, Feb 7, 2018.

  1. GatorSean

    GatorSean GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 3, 2007
    They weren't rebuilding though.

    Kirby inherited a stocked roster and the #1 QB recruit in the nation from Richt. Then the very next year the new #1 QB recruit was a a life long dawg fan right in uga's backyard. Now they have all the momentum and suddenly uga is the 'it' school.
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  2. RealGatorFan

    RealGatorFan Premium Member

    Apr 3, 2007
    Don't look into that too much. Alabama over signs every year and already has a team of mostly 5 stars. I would look at what they recruited. The 2 5 stars are both defense which Bama needs because of graduation and juniors leaving early. Of their remaining class, 17 players, 9 are defensive players of which 7 of them are 4 stars. So overall, 9 of their 19 commits are 4 and 5 star defensive players. Surprisingly, they didn't pick up a single RB, but look at what they already have at that position - Damien Harris, Najee Harris (5 star), Josh Jacobs (3 star), Brian Robinson Jr (4 star), and Ronnie Clark (4 star). Najee and Brian are freshmen and played this year so they will be elevated to starters along with Damien Harris and Jacobs. Yeah they could use one or 2 more but I think they will reload that position in next year's class.
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  3. phideltdj

    phideltdj GC Hall of Fame

    Aug 7, 2007
    Kirby is as clean as a port a potty...doesn't matter...all major programs are in this seedy business of college sports and if you don't do it you can't win championships.
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  4. themistocles

    themistocles VIP Member

    Apr 8, 2007
    Temple Terrace, FL
    High end College Sports is Corrupt to such a depth that it borders on the Incredible. It may possibly be worse than Czarist Russia in the late 19th Century which is likely the most corrupt environment throughout written historical records.

    You can still be good and avoid incredible corruption, but those at the top are almost always benefiting from it.

    As you noted rick, it was just Too Quick and Too Massive. And Smart doesn't have Harbaugh's charisma, by any stretch of the imagination.
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  5. Distant Gator

    Distant Gator GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 9, 2007
    Upstate, SC
    While certainly I wish we signed more 5-stars, I wonder if UGA will have problems managing all these egos.
    5-star recruits are a different breed.
    While all SEC signees see the NFL as a possibility, 5-stars come in already counting the NFL dough.
    When things don't go exactly as planned, the locker room can get toxic as the players get unhappy.

    So IMO too many 5-stars can be a problem. It's possible this blows up as it did for us under Meyer.

    (Yes, part of this is jealousy, but part of it is experience with this kind of ego/ entitlement.)

    So I'm not conceding anything to UGA.
    I like our coaches and I really like next year's schedule which should help our recruiting next year.

    We'll be fine.
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  6. LimeyGator

    LimeyGator Premium Member

    One other perspective that all of this recruiting success now brings... pressure.

    Due respect to Georgia, but anything less than a National Championship within the next 2/3 years with all that talent will be an abject failure by my estimation.

    I hope Kirby is ready!
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  7. GATOR_4Life

    GATOR_4Life All American

    Aug 16, 2010
    Marietta, Ga
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  8. wingtee

    wingtee GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 11, 2007
    Latitude Margaritaville
    Your first part is wishful thinking. If it was us with the 5***** you would be beaming .
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  9. Distant Gator

    Distant Gator GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 9, 2007
    Upstate, SC
    Not really.
    I remember well how many of Urban Meyer's 5 stars went bust.

    Just to refresh- between 2009 and 2010 we signed NINE 5-stars...
    Matt Elam
    Dominque Easley
    Shariff Floyd
    Ronald Powell
    Josh Shaw
    Jelani Jenkins
    Gary Brown
    Andre Debose
    Xavier Nixon

    So out of all these 5-stars we had a nice run in 12 but no championships.
    That's it.
    The 09s didn't help much in our SEC East title that year.

    But the locker room turned into a complete mess in 2010, and chaos ensued.

    So yeah- it can be a problem.

    I wish we got a few of them, but too many 5-stars can be a potential problem unless you have a Saban type personality at the top.

    It remains to be seen if Smart can handle this. Perhaps he can. I'm just saying it's not as simple as it sounds.

    And championships are not automatic. As our experience shows.
  10. wingtee

    wingtee GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 11, 2007
    Latitude Margaritaville
    Right , the jury is still out on Clemson , Bama and Ohio State.
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    Apr 8, 2007
    Only Bama has won more than once. Clemson and Ohio State have only won once under Urban and Dabo. College football is filled with coaches and programs that have won one National Title.
  12. interrygator73

    interrygator73 Junior

    Feb 21, 2017
    On UGa,

    "Why is it that during recruiting season they sign all the great players, but when it comes time to play the game, we have all the great players? I don't understand that. What happens to them?"

    no reference needed
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  13. spike718

    spike718 GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 11, 2007
    I will wait until I,see the pictures of every new Georgia 5 Star driving a new Dodge Charger ala Alabama.
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  14. GoCocks3877

    GoCocks3877 Senior

    Nov 14, 2015

    It’s not just the big programs.. We are paying Travaris Robinson 1.2 million. It’s starting to become the norm for college football programs.. Who woulda thunk it?
  15. DieAGator

    DieAGator GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 3, 2007
    How you received 2 disagrees and 1 c'mon man for this post is beyond me.
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  16. Gatuar

    Gatuar GC Hall of Fame

    Oct 9, 2008
    Ponte Vedra Beach
    The talent gap between us and UGA right now is as bad as last years score indicated and that’s scary

    Direct reflection of Macs lack of recruiting prowess and KS cleaned up
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  17. Bowiegator

    Bowiegator Junior

    Apr 3, 2007
    Uga definitely has bagmen as I know one personally as I live in atlanta. He isn’t at my club but at another one in atlanta (cap city). They exist for sure.

    I am sure all teams competing or trying to compete has them.

    Now directly related to the original poster. This situation is an outlier event that I don’t believe will happen again. GA hit the superfecta plain and simple.
    1) richt left him with a bunch of nfl players that were all 3rd, 4th, and 5th year players. Look it up GA was the most experienced team by far this year.
    2) richt left him with the top qb in the country and a very good start to his transition year.
    3) I know straight from a big dog booster (has a sky box) that the 3 biggest football boosters had a sit down with mcgarity and told him to give smart everything he asks for or the money will stop flowing.
    4) the top qb recruit in country and most ready to play happened to grow up in GA as a life long dog fan (Fromm).
    5) this year they luck into again the top qb in country is from Marietta GA (fields)
    6) AL has huge turnover in coaching staff the last two years (more so than normal)
    7) Malzahn was on hot seat last year through like game 8 this year (GA competes against them for recruits)
    8) to top it all off and why I say they hit the superfecta is the 3 other biggest competitors for recruits (besides AL and Aub mentioned above) are FL (we border the southern part of their state) and FSU (they border the SW of GA), and TN (northern border) —-All three schools went through coaching changes not within years of each other but all at the same exact time. That last thing will never in any of our lifetimes ever happen again.

    We just signed a really solid transition class. We have a lot of 4 stars and those 4 stars with a chip can play with any 5 stars.

    Very important FL/GA game this year IMO.
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  18. twodaparty

    twodaparty GC Hall of Fame

    Apr 3, 2007
    If you know of uga bagmen in Atl why not report and or prove it to everyone?? Those bastards need to go down hard like ole miss if they are going to cheat their way to try and win.
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  19. orangeblue_coop

    orangeblue_coop GC Hall of Fame

    Nov 19, 2016
    The truth makes people uncomfortable.
  20. atlmover

    atlmover GC Legend

    Feb 3, 2010
    Atlanta, GA
    ITP or OTP?