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Allen Trammell, the Florida football player? I don’t follow you.

 

Trammell was more exceptional as a baseball player than as a football player- and he was pretty good at football. There were many FB players who also played bsb in those days, including Richard Trapp, Tom Shannon, Len and John Fuller, Charley Casey, Guy McTheney, David Bowden, John Brantley (the elder) and more. Spurrier, intended to play, but Coach Graves talked him out of it. Trammell played bsb in '64 and '65, mainly OF. The team played only 67 games combined in those two years, about what they play in a single year now. That probably keeps him from ranking in most cummulative stats. I addition, more statistical categories are measured now. The team was good those years, finishing second in the SEC East both years. Only conference champions were eligible for NCAA postseason in those years.

Trammell was All SEC in '65. He holds the alltime Gator top season BA: .425 in '65. That year, he led the team in hits, doubles and RBI and was tied in at bats, triples and HR. Among his records that still stand, most are from his big day against KY on 3/16/65. He is tied for the most at bats in one inning: 6th inning, 3; tied for most hits in an inning: 3 (2 doubles and one HR), tied for most doubles in an inning, 2; tied for most total bases in an inning: 8; alone with most RBI in an inning: 8 (tied for the NCAA record); tied for most runs in an inning: 3. That inning also holds team records for the most at bats: 22; and runs 18. He led the team in '65 in HR, hits, doubles, RBI and was tied for at bats, triples and HR. He had a pretty good year in '65 and a decent career.

I grew up in Jax and there was almost no Gator baseball coverage there, but there was coverage of a few individual players, mainly the guys who also played football. I was in HS then and definitely was aware that Trammell was a star in both sports. It's a fact that one can only make very subjective comparisons among players from different eras, but Trammell stands out among many good players from the Fuller area and earlier.

 

Boss, thanks for clearing that up for me. My knowledge of Gator baseball started when I attended UF in 1976. I believe the coach at the time was Jay Bergman and then Andy Lopez. I remembered the name Allen Trammell but only as a football player didn’t know he was such an accomplished baseball player. Funny enough I remember the Detroit Tigers Alan Trammell as he was my grandfathers favorite players. Appreciate that bit of history and agree it sounds like Trammell belongs in the discussion.

 

Happy to help. There are some people on this board that have great knowledge about baseball and are willing to help us understand important details about the nature of the sport. However, there are times when when we need someone who know bits of useles trivia and I feel that's my niche. Feel free to ask me something insignificant.

 

You come through with solid insight on top of your niche contributions.

 

love seeing and reading your comments on Allen. He was a stud and also roomed with Spurrier for awhile at UF. As good a player in both sports as he was my memory of him at UF is as a coach, he was my position coach my senior year at UF. He did a great job as the DB coach and if one looked they would see the defense gave up about 12 pts a game in 1975. Allen lives in Orlando and became a very successful person in the insurance industry after getting out of coaching. He’s one of the good ones! Thanks again for the details!

 

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How is Shelton looking at short? I’m curious about his defensive ability there.

 

I've been leaning this way for more than a week, but Peterson's performance today makes him top pitcher on my list and most consistent of the fall- even with a week to go. Cags' improvements put him second, but he hasn't had the consistency of Peterson. Neely and Fisher have shown a great deal of the same quality work we saw last season, but both have had a few poor innings mixed in with good ones. My impression is that Sully has provided more opportunities for the guys who have impressed him most leaving Gomberg and Phipot with a smaller sample size, but both pitched well earlier this week. With the end of fall workouts closing in, I'm VERY pleased with this staff. No one has shown the level of performance of the very top Sully pitchers of past years- and it can only help if Coppola pitches in '24- but given the number of frosh whom we have to count on, I'm feeling good. BTW- these are comments from the perspective of an attentive elderly fan with no exeriance as a player older than 15 or coaching players over 13.

 

Someone asked about Shelton's fielding and I overheard two scouts discussing his abilities and their main critique was his arm-- both agreed that he would be better suited for second base in pro ball because of that and also noted that he turns well on double plays so second may be his spot.... at the next level.
Sorry I missed the second game and Peterson's outing as the scouts were talking him up as well and were highly impressed with what they have seen thus far. Given his HS scouting report we are lucky to have him on campus.

 

I missed most of the first week, but I've made it to nearly every scrimmage since. (Retired life is wonderful.) Still, I've only seen 3-4 innings of McNeilly- not enough to make a decent assessment, but enough to agree he and Peterson are at the top of the class. I do have good feelings about other frosh. Johnson really has caught my attention. First time I saw him, he seemed awkward and had no heat on his pitches, but I realized he throws all breaking stuff. Lots of different speeds, but some sharp breaks that make hitters look bad- more break than I normally can see so clearly from other pitchers. I get the sort of impression of him that I had of Michael Byrne as a fall workout frosh. I was surprised he got so few innings as a spring frosh, but not that he turned out so well on the championship team.

That second level group includes nearly every other frosh. Before workouts started, Rodriguez was often named with the top two, but he has been less consistent than any other frosh. If he can raise the weak moments to the level of his strong moments, he'll make us very happy. Menendez, Satin, Smith and McDonald have had very good innings with some hiccups mixed in, but I like them all. I didn't see Philpot or Gomberg at all through the first few weeks and I wondered if they had not earned mond time from Sully, but I've see both have perfect innings over the last 10 days or so.

 

87, interesting that you included Jameson on your list of "core" pitchers and likely Sunday's solid performance vs Stetson appeared convincing but in the scrimmage I attended two weeks ago, Jameson was hit hard, gave up runs and even the outs were loud.