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Discussion in 'Diamond Gators' started by Matherly87, Jun 12, 2020.

  1. paidinfull

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    I don't see rivera's arm or glove being big league ready either. Not sure I woulda dug that post back up as a way to pat myself on the back.
     
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  2. gtj31

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    His arm is absolutely Big League. It is the primary difference between him and the prior UF SSs who were better fielders. He has a gun. Maybe not the most accurate one though...
     
  3. paidinfull

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    That’s what I meant. Not that it wasn’t strong, you just have no idea where its going.
     
  4. 74nole

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    Well, I’m more concerned about the baseball getting into his glove so that he can show off his arm....:ninja3:
     
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  5. jdgator

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    Exactly. I guarantee you his lack of effort plays on some of the balls hit up the middle that should have been knocked down, got the attention of Mace and Leftwich.
     
  6. Matherly87

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    With Guscette going down for who knows how long, I think its clear who our starters should be. I won't make in batting order suggestions since Sully seems zeroed in.

    C - Hickey
    1st - Butler/Calilao
    2nd - Halter
    SS - Carrion
    3rd - McMullen
    LF - Young
    CF - Fabian
    RF - Thompson/Calilao
    DH - Armstrong

    Note: Calilao now has a better overall BA than Butler so why not give him a chance. Plus Butler is only batting .172 in SEC play with 29 ABs and no walks and the lowest in conference OB% on the team at .161. Calilao used to be solid at first a few years back.
     
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  7. gtr2x

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    Agree on hoping Calilao gets a shot somewhere and have posted that before. Seems like the forgotten guy on this team.
    Butler had no hits tonight but he did have some productive ABs and is very good defensively.
    Hickey needs to be in the lineup so he probably starts, but i think Greenfield is the better catcher.
     
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  8. gtj31

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    Butler was unlucky not to get a hit on the one he roped to 1B. But I agree Calilao deserves a shot.
     
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  9. 74nole

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    I agree with @wingtee and anyone else who has said it—Greenfield is our best receiver. He handles pitches/and pitchers better. I also agree that he struggles at the plate.

    I hate to even type this but after watching the replay several times I can’t be surprised if Guscette’s arm is not fractured or broken....I surely hope not.
     
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  10. gtj31

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    If that ball hits closer to the elbow (not the actual elbow) and gets the meatier part of the forearm, he would be fine. But it was down toward the wrist and that can break. I too fear he is done for a bit.

    I got hit a fair amount as a catcher in HS but I never took a 92 mph fastball straight on the wrist area like he did. I took a ton on the inside of the arm when crossed up but the inside isn’t direct bone.
     
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  11. gtr2x

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    I give major credit to any catcher. Tough position. I caught once way back in LL days, that was more than enough for me.
     
  12. Matherly87

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    With this being the last of our back to back mid week games I thought the pitching numbers will be interesting to follow and see who needs some time on the mound. I'm deleting Mace, Leftwich, Barco, Aleman, and Scott so as to focus on the pitchers more likely to see action Tuesday and Wednesday.

    # -----Player ---------------ERA --WHIP --W-L --APP-GS ---IP ---H --R --ER --BB --SO --2B --3B --HR --AB --B/AVG
    29 -Carrion, Jordan -------0.00 -----.95 ---0-0 ------5-0 ----6.1 ---4 --0 ----0 ----2 ----8 ----0 ----0 ----0 ---22 -----.182
    30 -Mink, Hunter ----------0.00 ----1.67 ---0-0 ------2-0 ----3.0 ---2 --2 ----0 ----3 ----4 ----0 ----0 ----0 ---12 -----.167
    8 --Sproat, Brandon ------1.64 ----1.64 ---2-0 -----10-0 ---11.0 -11 --3 ----2 ----7 ----8 ----1 ----0 ----2 ---39 -----.282
    28 -Centala, Chase --------2.79 ----1.34 ---1-0 ------5-1 ----9.2 ---9 ---3----3 ----4 ----7 ----1 ----0 ----0 ---37 -----.243
    33 -Van Der Weide, Trey -4.42 ----1.25 ---0-0 ------9-0 ---18.1 -18 -13 ---9 ----5 ---14 ----4 ----1 ----0 ---72 -----.250
    15 -Butler, Jordan ---------4.50 ----1.17 ---1-1 ------4-0 ----6.0 ---3 --4 ---3 ----4 ----6 -----2 ----0 ----1 ---21 -----.143
    17 -Luethje, David --------6.00 ----2.00 ---0-0 ------4-0 -----3.0 --5 --4 ----2 ----1 ----2 ----1 ----0 ----0 ---13 -----.385
    44 -Manning, Timmy -----6.14 -----1.23 ---0-0 ------5-1 ----7.1 ---7 --5 ---5 -----2 ----5 ----2 ----1 ----0 ---28 -----.250
    3 --Milchin, Garrett -------7.59 ----1.97 ---1-1 ------4-4 ---10.2 --19 -10 ---9 -----2 ---11 ---3 ----0 ----1 ----50 ----.380
    16 -Cabarcas, Ryan -------8.10 ----1.50 ---0-0 ------5-0 -----3.1 --3 ---3 ---3 -----2 ----1 ----0 ----0 ---2 ----12 -----.250
    55 -Specht, Ben -----------9.00 ----1.50 ---0-1 ------5-0 ----10.0 -12 -10 ---10 ----3 ----6 ---3 ----1 ----3 ----38 ----.316

    Doubtful we see VDW.
    Milchin is already listed as the probable for Tuesday.
    I think Mink, Centala and Luethje need more time out there.
    Could we see Jordan get a start on Wednesday? Sully has done that a few times over the last couple of years.
    I'd like to see Sproat and Specht get another shot at closing either of these two.
     
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  13. gtj31

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    Not a batting order but some updates on pitching. Comparing some key statistics to 2017, simply because 2017 was 6-6 in the SEC and then finished...strong. 2021 numbers first and then 2017.

    ERA: 3.76 vs 3.45
    WHIP: 1.20 vs 1.30
    BAA: .233 vs .256
    BB/9: 2.846 vs 3.059
    K/9: 9.28 vs 9.07

    Pitching has been ok. The one issue, HRs. 2017 gave up less than 1 HR per 2 games! 2021 is giving up roughly 1 HR per game. Doing it as HR per AB, 1 HR per 72 ABs in 2017. However, in 2021 it is 26.4 ABs per HR. Massive difference.

    HBP is also more common in 2021 but the primary driver is the long ball. If UF can cut those down, they might be very good on the mound despite our eye test...
     
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  14. gtj31

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    Fielding is the other obvious massive difference. .981 in 2017 and .968 in 2021!
     
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  15. 74nole

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    Dang—almost startling is that our this year’s BB/9 is lower than ANY YEAR....
     
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    Yeah I was shocked as well. I haven’t looked up the numbers compared to other years but I do remember a lot of “grief” regarding the 2017 team. Hitting was terrible at the start of the year. Actually hit well in conference. Bullpen had ZERO depth. To demonstrate how obvious that lack of depth was, check out the Wake Forest Super and the Championship Series against LSU. 5 guys could be trusted on the entire roster: Faedo, Singer, Kowar, Dyson, and of course Byrne. And Dyson was a late “phenomenon”.

    So 2017 had 4 pitchers during the regular season it could trust. That isn’t that far removed from 2021. And again, Scott and Mace are pitching very well. Leftwich is equal with Kowar. Aleman might by Byrne-light??? Can’t call him equal as Byrne was an AA and UF’s saves record holder in 2018 so the shoes might be a bit big as of today.

    The fielding though... Awful.

    And the HRs need more analysis. Hopefully Sully has someone looking at tendencies and so forth. If those fall, UF might be close.
     
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  17. WESGATORS

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    Just a fun thing to point out about Dyson...

    Before the SR: 4.74 ERA, 1.34 WHIP, 20 Appearances, 1 start, 24.2 IP, 25 H, 14 R, 13 ER, 8 BB, 33 K
    SR + CWS: 0.63 ERA, 0.49 WHIP, 4 Appearances, 1 start, 14.1 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 14 K

    Go GATORS!
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  18. WESGATORS

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    FLORIDA after 9 SEC games in 2017:

    20-9, 5-4
    BA: .240 (Players with 26+ starts: Guthrie .255, Rivera .250, Schwarz .248, India .238, Liput .216)
    3B: 3
    OPS: .689
    K: 212 (7.3 per game)
    BB: 106 (3.7 per game)
    FLD: .981
    RPG: 4.4
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    ERA: 2.86
    WHIP: 1.21
    Opp BA: 0.237
    BB/game: 3
    K/game: 8.9 (Singer, Faedo, Byrne, Kowar accounted for 64% of innings to this point)

    Go GATORS!
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  19. apkgator

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    Oh lord....I know Shane's radar can detect a Dyson mention from thousands of miles away. It's a bigger trigger than Specht:)
     
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    Here are the interesting pitching notes from the weekend series from the website.

    FRIDAY: RJR Tommy Mace (4-0, 2.54 ERA)
    SATURDAY: TBA
    SUNDAY: FR* RHP Hunter Barco (4-2, 5.30 ERA)

    Prehaps Sully is planning to hold Leftwich out as the starter like last Saturday, depending on how Friday night goes. Either that or something is up with Leftwich.
     
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